re: I'm actually starting to think Anderson will be gone after this season.

What baggage does he have from UCLA. I know lots of people don't really care for his style of play. Do you think he would take it after being passed over this time and he would take over a program worse off than before KA arrived. This was such a terrible hire. Alden has proven he can't hire basketball coaches.

Yes, I think he would still take it. A school with a decent basketball history in a P5. I bet he feels he could turn it around fairly quick, and feels he has something to prove. He doesn't want his coaching career to end on such a downer.

This is all a hunch, mind you, but I think he would still jump at the chance to get back into coaching, even with the state of our program.

I'm just gonna say what some are thinking but are too afraid to say for fear of being labeled a racist...

I think part of the issue is that KA doesn't have respect from Fuller and some of the players because he's white. The rumor mill is saying that Fuller doesn't respect KA and has been telling recruits to follow him to another program when he leaves after this season.

I think the KA inherited an impossible situation this year. Some of these minority kids came to play for a minority recruiter and a minority coach. The minority coach left and suddenly their new coach is an old white guy that they've never heard of from the D-II ranks.

Then Ferguson (in of all places Missouri) happened and that ignited a nationwide powder keg of unjustified black-on-white racist emotions that was broadcast on news networks 24/7 for weeks/months.

So here's the situation: Mostly black players recruited by a black recruiter who was (according to rumor mill) miffed that he was passed over in favor of an old white coach with no D-I experience. Old white coach's team gets off to bad start. Rumors of players with attitude problems who are antagonistic toward the coach and other players. However, things start to look hopeful and perhaps the team turned a corner after the Illinois and LSU game. Then suddenly the team goes on an inexplicable losing streak that coincides with player suspensions that are once against linked to attitude and disciplinary issues. Rumors of Fuller talking to players about transferring next season.

Yeah, it seems like Anderson inherited a wonderful situation.

I'm not saying the kids or Fuller are indeed racist. I'm just saying that it's possible that some players quit on KA because they don't and never did respect him due to his age and race. Race is in fact a two way street that travels in both directions. The "rumors" indicate attitude issues with some players and Fuller...and if you just sit down for a minute and wonder why so many kids and possibly Fuller have attitude and disciplinary issues, you can start to connect the dots beginning with Haith's departure and Anderson's hire.

But race is just too taboo to discuss because god forbid someone call an apple and apple.

And therefore most Mizzou fans will continue to wonder why Haith's players were perfect angels for Haith but then suddenly became problem kids when Anderson took over. This season will truly perplex most Mizzou fans who will probably arrive to the conclusion that this terrible season is all on Anderson.

Anderson is just too hard on these kids. He cares more about molding kids into men of character than victories on the court. And that's just unacceptable. Fire him. Hire Howland, a coach who allowed true thugs to flourish at the expense of other players who constantly felt threatened, because victories are all that matter. Let thugs be thugs as long as we're winning.

Mizzou Made. Amirite?

The worst thing that happened to Mizzou basketball was the Haith hire and his amazing first year 30 win season that he accomplished due to veteran players that were recruited by a far better coach, Mike Anderson.

That 1st season spoiled Mizzou fans with the idea that all 1st year hires going forward must accomplish the same thing. It set unrealistic expectations.

I'd rather have a "true son" coach experience an awful first year and gradually get better (you know, build a real program) versus a coach who was a flash-in-the-pan his first season but gradually got worse and then bolted at the moment when people were starting to open their eyes to the fact that he was a fraud.

Whatever. Perhaps I'm just racist

Killz you may be onto something with Fuller and his motives. One thing I am not is PC, and don't see a bit of racism in what you typed. I believe calling a spade a spade.

I'm not necessarily calling for KA head, but am pretty pissed this team shows zero signs of improvement. I didn't like the KA hire at first, but because he is a true son, what he had to say, was able to keep the recruits on board, I jumped on the bandwagon. This has just been a shitfest of a season and losing my patience, plain and simple.

I want KA to succeed here and feel he deserves another season to get the ship heading in the right direction.

Howland has baggage, we all know that, but before he went to UCLA, where the pressure to win is insane, all the corrupt rich boosters and agents flying around that place, he ran a clean program from what I remember. I think Howland got in over his head at UCLA. I think he is a good guy and great coach who made mistakes and has owned up to them. We live in a country built on second chances, and if KA doesn't work out here, Mizzou would be a good destination for said second chance where the atmosphere is alot less toxic than UCLA.

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I swear, some of you expect FAR TOO MUCH from a program that's never been to a Final Four. Just being honest.

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I don't think it's far too much to expect us to beat UMKC, or atleast be competitive in a mediocre basketball conference. Or getting drilled at home through much of the game by a fellow bottom feeder.

We have no home court advantage which is pathetic compared to our record at Mizzou Arena.

I really don't think we are asking for much. This season we have:

A losing record and will break the all time loss record.

Lost to UMKC and struggled to beat SEMO and Elon. We were lucky to beat the last two.

Have not improved at all.

Have player and apparently an assistant coach issue.

Lost to UK by 49. I believe that is a record.

As of today ranked 305 in scoring and not much better in other categories.

Have lost to rivals Illinois and Arkansas.

Lost four league games by 20 plus points and several by double digits.

Mizzou Arena is empty and no one is going to the games.

The players and coaches don't act like they care.

Our 37 points was the lowest since the shot clock/three point goal.

I don't think we expect too much. This year has been miserable. And it may get worse before it gets better.

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I swear, some of you expect FAR TOO MUCH from a program that's never been to a Final Four. Just being honest.

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If expecting not to turn in the worst season in program history is "too much"...then yeah, I expect too much.

Michael White would've been a better hire.

Any number of mid major head coaches or high level D1 assistants.

This was a reach hire and there's no way to get around that.

Oh please stop with that race BS. No one in D1 BBall gives KA respect because he is a D2 coach. No one cares about what you did at that level when you pass it. Players are and should be pissed at him because he is trying to be a stern discipline without even being a decent coach first. It has nothing to do with his age and race. There are many old white coaches that the players would respect if they had any credibility at the D1 level. In fact, most of the top coaches right now are older white guys. No one is talking about race not because it's too PC of an issue but because it's not an issue. And you somehow tried to tie the Ferguson situation in with this. There are many reasons to not respect KA as a coach at this level that race is not even on the radar.

People want to reflect as little blame as possible onto KA. I just want to know how long is it going to take for a majority of people to admit KA was not the best possible hire.

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How many games would have went the other way by the players simply executing on the court?

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Less than we'd hope.

We have well over 10 games that we lost by 10+ points. I think it's hard to say that those would be won by simply "executing better."

The OSU, Illinois and Arky games, the team frankly played above their ability level. So I don't feel comfortable saying they would have won those games "with execution."

So, you're left with a game at USC and at home against Miss. St and maybe on the road at Auburn (though I think Kim's coaching job in that game was one of his worst this year).

Eta: at home at Tenner would've been close with "better execution."