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Defensive coordinators still demanding the NCAA pass rules to save them

Posted on 2/13/15 at 7:46 am
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38001 posts
Posted on 2/13/15 at 7:46 am
And Rogers Redding is still carrying Nick Saban's water.

How precious.

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/change-illegal-man-downfield-rule-could-boost-defenses-010948370--ncaaf.html

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The play still annoys many Alabama fans who are convinced it was illegal. No, not the Kick-Six that Auburn used to beat the Crimson Tide on the last play of the 2013 Iron Bowl. It was the touchdown the Tigers scored before the famous missed field goal that really burns 'Bama fans.

Auburn tied the score late in the fourth quarter when Nick Marshall flipped a pass to Sammie Coates over a defense that was drawn in by a run-blocking offensive line. A couple of Auburn linemen appear to have strayed down the field a bit farther than the 3 yards allowed on the play, but it wasn't called and the rest is history.

Starting next season, offenses that try to confuse defenses by throwing behind run-blocking lines could have less room to work their games of deception.


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''I think it's a rule that the defensive coaches are going to be very excited about,'' Penn State defensive coordinator Bob Shoop said Thursday. ''Specifically, the ones that are keying hard on the offensive line for their run-pass reads. I think that's a big one right there for them.''


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''It's the continuation of a trend where defensive people try to change the rules rather than try to stop the advances in offense,'' said new Montana coach Bob Stitt, who used spread schemes at Division II Colorado School of Mines that were considered among the most creative in college football.


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NCAA coordinator of officials Rogers Redding said Wednesday the proposal was made because it was difficult for officials to determine if a lineman had gone past the 3-yard limit before a pass was released.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:18 am to
I don't know if I have a problem with this.


Especially since the obvious solution is to add some zone block run schemes and pass plays. Zone blockers rarely go past 1 yard and it would be extremely difficult for referees to be able to call that
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22365 posts
Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:29 am to
i don't have a problem with it either... to be honest, OLs shouldn't be three yards downfield with a pass is thrown.

I do think all the bitching and complaining from defensive coaches is getting pretty ridiculous... the rules apply to everyone... evolve or gtfo.
Posted by mckibaj
Member since Nov 2010
7728 posts
Posted on 2/13/15 at 8:54 am to
This pic make me laugh.

I think this play would still be legal. Prosch is engaged, Dismukes is only about a yard away. Kozan is 2 yards away but running back toward the line of scrimmage.
Posted by WDE1980
Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
909 posts
Posted on 2/13/15 at 5:01 pm to


there is the Bama math at its finest. Farthest lineman down field is within 2.5 yards from the line of scrimmage. They must be rounding up like they do with their national championships. Even if they did round up to 3 yards, it still keeps all the lineman within legal distance. The rule states they can not be beyond 3 yards of the LOS right?
Posted by AUX3
Member since Dec 2010
3446 posts
Posted on 2/13/15 at 7:57 pm to
These guys take a 6ft step already - the first time a game is decided by a player being 1.5yds past the line is going to be really fun. Stupid rule. If they can't figure it out at 3yds - how is 1 yd going to be any easier? This is the dumbest thing I've heard for reasoning.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 2/13/15 at 11:03 pm to
I just love that they called out holding.

So. Much. Irony.
Posted by LandofDixie
Member since Jul 2012
2825 posts
Posted on 2/14/15 at 8:18 am to
Did anyone listen to the Radiolab about football a week ago? Most of the story involved a college team called Carlisle Indian School having to come up with new and innovative ways to beat the championship-caliber teams, and the Ivy League schools always coming up with rules to prevent it. Reminds me a little bit of the current situations with contemporary offense and defense.
Posted by tom1987
Member since Aug 2011
618 posts
Posted on 2/14/15 at 9:37 am to
Our battle cry "War Eagle" May have originated at a game between Auburn and Carlisle. The Auburn team would point out the star Indian player and shout his name to make the Auburn players aware of where he was on the field. The Auburn crowd heard it as "war eagle" and began yelling it too.
Posted by LandofDixie
Member since Jul 2012
2825 posts
Posted on 2/14/15 at 9:54 am to
Alright, that's cool as hell. I had never heard that explanation before and it sounds a lot more plausible than the others.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 2/14/15 at 9:57 am to
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Our battle cry "War Eagle" May have originated at a game between Auburn and Carlisle.


Except that is as factually incorrect as the UGA civil war eagle story.

There are letters to prove that war eagle chant started as a result of someone losing their military officer eagle from their cap in the early 1900s during a pep rally.


Dr. C in the Ag school has done extensive digging into the issue
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48888 posts
Posted on 2/14/15 at 10:24 am to
Tell me more. Never heard that
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 2/14/15 at 11:30 am to
That play still will work. The Seahawks ran it successfully and directly attributed it to Auburn. The NFL rule on blocking within 1 yard of LOS will be the same as the new one in NCAA.

So frick Saban.
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