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Scientists confirm "No Big Bang. Universe has no beginning"

Posted on 2/10/15 at 4:35 pm
Posted by Stacked
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 4:35 pm
Now what the hell do we argue about?


"Universe has no beginning."
Posted by arcalades
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 4:39 pm to
They know nothing.
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 4:46 pm to
Christians 1

Atheists 0
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 4:47 pm to
Doesn't this prove the existence of Jesus?
Posted by CatFan81
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Member since May 2009
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

Doesn't this prove the existence of Jesus?


No.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 4:50 pm to
I've argued that for a long time. It also has no end. The idea of beginning and ending is a human construct and severely limits the understanding of nature.

Take life, for example. It's merely the process of chemical interactions to a point of complexity that we label as biology. The reverse can be said of death.
Posted by JombieZombie
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 4:57 pm to
It doesn't say the BB theory is dead.
Posted by BamaChemE
Midland, TX
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

in a paper published in Physics Letters B


Seems like something of this magnitude would have enough cross-disciplinary impacts that it could've been published in Physics Letters A
Posted by Aux Arc
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 5:00 pm to
If they ever reach a consensus, hold onto your wallets.
Posted by Tiguar
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 5:09 pm to
Christians: 4857353875395

Atheists: Had 1, now 0




fixt
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

It doesn't say the BB theory is dead.


Correct. The BB (more accurately the Big Inflation) is a transition phase. A popular idea is that two Branes brushed together, triggering the BB and our Universe.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 5:16 pm to
quote:

Doesn't this prove the existence of Jesus?


No.


Correct.

HIstorical evidence proved the existence of Jesus. I suppose you can debate if he really was the son of God, but he did exist and was in fact crucified.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 5:23 pm to
Its good to see scientist are still out there working and reworking to learn new things. Mean while religious people study The Bible, an ancient collection of stories by one of many religions, predated by other religions before it. Until your education level and ability to deduce simple logic has evolved beyond this shallow point, you will never be able to understand anything more advanced.
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

HIstorical evidence proved the existence of Jesus.


Correct.

quote:

I suppose you can debate if he really was the son of God


Well, I'm not sure that one can debate it since there is no evidence of said god.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

HIstorical evidence proved the existence of Jesus.


quote:

Correct.


Don't tell Straws.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 5:33 pm to
Straws had a stroke when he read that
Posted by GoldenDawg
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 5:38 pm to
It's just a mere theory. This one is as good as the last one and will be as good as the next one.

Here we sit on an infinitesimal speck on this dust mote of a galaxy somewhere in the midst of something we don't even really know what and theorize about things.

All well and good and an honorable pursuit. But we're still just a bunch of mutts still trying to figure out the door knob, let alone the light switch, etc.

So, anyway, no theory is worth getting too worked up over. There will always be another one coming along shortly.
Posted by GoldenDawg
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

The Bible, an ancient collection of stories by one of many religions, predated by other religions before it. Until your education level and ability to deduce simple logic has evolved beyond this shallow point, you will never be able to understand anything more advanced.

The Bible did always have it right, though. There was always something (Bible says God, this new theory says ... I'm not really sure). For a long time the Bible was mocked on this point - the point that something always was. The scientific community mocked that as fable, fairy tale, magic pixie dust, superstition, you name it. Admit it, many on here did the same.

Right up until today.

Oops.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 5:51 pm to
quote:

no theory is worth getting too worked up over.


It is when the math supports the theory. That's second only to observational evidence. A major headache for physicists has been stitching together general relativity and quantum theory. That Ali and Das have linked them mathematically is significant and promising.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 2/10/15 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

The Bible did always have it right, though. There was always something (Bible says God, this new theory says ... I'm not really sure). For a long time the Bible was mocked on this point - the point that something always was. The scientific community mocked that as fable, fairy tale, magic pixie dust, superstition, you name it. Admit it, many on here did the same.


Oh, please. The "scientific community" has no interest in mocking religion. Our only concern with religion is to keep it out of government. Science and theocracies don't get along very well.
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