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Athlon Sports: Florida's Nightmare National Signing Day Scenario
Posted on 1/30/15 at 11:11 pm
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It's not like McElwain was hired 2 weeks before NSD, he had 2 full months to recruit his arse off. I still can't figure out why he recruits worse than Derek Dooley at Tennessee. It really shouldn't be that hard to recruit at Florida.
It's not like McElwain was hired 2 weeks before NSD, he had 2 full months to recruit his arse off. I still can't figure out why he recruits worse than Derek Dooley at Tennessee. It really shouldn't be that hard to recruit at Florida.
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Posted on 1/30/15 at 11:15 pm to Phat Phil
I've really been surprised at how poorly they have recruited. I figured once they got someone in there that recruiting would take off. How he's not getting CeCe is a mystery to me.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 11:17 pm to Henry Jones Jr
HUGE mistake keeping Muschamp that extra year. He was a dead coach walking. Every body seemed to know it but Foley. Odd as heck. 
Posted on 1/30/15 at 11:29 pm to Phat Phil
I think Mc will recruit well next year. This year is hard because of Muschamp going to a school in tSEC. Had he gone elsewhere, I think UF locks down the big3.
The one thing that is puzzling to me is why he didn't pack his support staff full of recruiters. Why Nussmeier over Napier? It's McElwain's system anyway. Why not keep Lawing?
The one thing that is puzzling to me is why he didn't pack his support staff full of recruiters. Why Nussmeier over Napier? It's McElwain's system anyway. Why not keep Lawing?
Posted on 1/30/15 at 11:31 pm to Phat Phil
I think they'll take their licks this year on the recruiting trail. 2016 will be a better gauge of what UF can expect from him as a recruiter.
Comparing him to Harbaugh at Michigan just isn't fair, IMO. Harbaugh is a household name and a high profile coach. McElwain? Not yet.
Comparing him to Harbaugh at Michigan just isn't fair, IMO. Harbaugh is a household name and a high profile coach. McElwain? Not yet.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 11:32 pm to Phat Phil
Moar UF threads... Please.
He only retained 1 coach from the previous regime. McElwain had 1 1/2 weeks before the dead period, and then 3 after the dead period. Looks like a little over a month. He was left with 7 commits, let's see where UF stands on NSD.
He only retained 1 coach from the previous regime. McElwain had 1 1/2 weeks before the dead period, and then 3 after the dead period. Looks like a little over a month. He was left with 7 commits, let's see where UF stands on NSD.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 11:33 pm to chattabama
Lawing has issues. There's a reason why Bama passed on him as well. Jimbo doesn't give a shite, but Lawing carries a black cloud off the field and if most parents knew, they wouldn't send their kid to play for him.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 11:41 pm to gatordmb89
Kiffin left UT on January 12th, 22 days before signing day (feb 3rd 2010), Dooley was hired on the 16th (18 days before) and He still managed to retain the 9th ranked recruiting class (according to 247). Anyway you spin it, this is bad for UF.
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Posted on 1/30/15 at 11:41 pm to ibldprplgld
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Comparing him to Harbaugh at Michigan just isn't fair, IMO. Harbaugh is a household name and a high profile coach. McElwain? Not yet.
Even so, Michigan still only has nine commits less than a week before signing day. Kids aren't exactly banging down the doors to play for Harbaugh this year. Granted, their star average is better, but it is safe to say that both schools have struggled to fill up their roster this year.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 11:48 pm to chattabama
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Even so, Michigan still only has nine commits less than a week before signing day. Kids aren't exactly banging down the doors to play for Harbaugh this year. Granted, their star average is better, but it is safe to say that both schools have struggled to fill up their roster this year.
I agree. I just think the author of that was a little off point to compare McElwain to Harbaugh at this point. The next recruiting cycle will definitely answer some questions.
FWIW, I think McElwain knows what he's doing and just hasn't had a lot of time to get his feet under him.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 12:05 am to VFL1800FPD
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Kiffin left UT on January 12th, 22 days before signing day (feb 3rd 2010), Dooley was hired on the 16th (18 days before) and He still managed to retain the 9th ranked recruiting class (according to 247). Anyway you spin it, this is bad for UF.
That's sad!!! UF is fricked
Posted on 1/31/15 at 1:21 am to Phat Phil
I suspect Muschamp is to blame. Even given his problems at Florida, I don't see how he managed to recruit so poorly before he left. It's almost as if he did it on purpose. Now he's at Auburn and recruiting well, so doesn't that tell you something?
Muschamp left Florida in such poor shape recruiting-wise, that it probably left McElwain without many options. By the time he arrived, most recruits had already committed elsewhere and those that hadn't probably didn't want to be the first to jump on board that sinking ship; especially so late in the game.
For the sake of accuracy, Barnett was a gift to Riley, thanks to Arkansas and Oklahoma pulling their offers, so it's not like Riley actually beat many others for him.
Muschamp left Florida in such poor shape recruiting-wise, that it probably left McElwain without many options. By the time he arrived, most recruits had already committed elsewhere and those that hadn't probably didn't want to be the first to jump on board that sinking ship; especially so late in the game.
For the sake of accuracy, Barnett was a gift to Riley, thanks to Arkansas and Oklahoma pulling their offers, so it's not like Riley actually beat many others for him.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 1:47 am to chattabama
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Even so, Michigan still only has nine commits less than a week before signing day. Kids aren't exactly banging down the doors to play for Harbaugh this year. Granted, their star average is better, but it is safe to say that both schools have struggled to fill up their roster this year.
This. Pretty much all Harbaugh has done is try to flip prospects. They got Gentry because he doesn't have any real ties to Texas. They'll get back the TE Clark as well, but many other guys are skeptical as they should be.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 2:18 am to VFL1800FPD
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Kiffin left UT on January 12th, 22 days before signing day (feb 3rd 2010), Dooley was hired on the 16th (18 days before) and He still managed to retain the 9th ranked recruiting class (according to 247). Anyway you spin it, this is bad for UF.
Completely agree. Bielema came in to the job at Arkansas around the same time as McElwain and immediately had a class ranked around 75 because he dropped all of our OOS commits. A few weeks later we had the #23 ranked class and a host of folks that will be all-SEC candidates next year. He also signed this past seasons leading tackler in the SEC in that class.
If Arkansas can do it then there is zero excuse why Florida shouldn't be in the top 25 right now.
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Posted on 1/31/15 at 2:21 am to Phat Phil
Is the ink dried on the LOI's yet, cocksmokers? I don't like UF, cause when they're good, they're GOOD. We have to play them every year. Either way, Mac inherited a pretty f'd up situation. Next year will be different. Oh, and frick bama, the plains, ole piss, Evan Stone and fat arse. The new fulmer and his donkey too. frick all of you. You brag vicious, thunderqueefs.
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Posted on 1/31/15 at 6:02 am to Phat Phil
Having Muschamp and T-Rob immediately go on staff at Auburn, as well as Lawing at FSU, really hurt them. That doesn't usually happen when a staff is replaced.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 9:22 am to Phat Phil
florida fans don't want to admit it but florida state is #1 in their state now and it looks like for the foreseeable future. I kinda feel sorry for McElwain as I think he's stepped into a big pile of dodo.
it's up to him to determine if it's short run or not but his staff better start recruiting out of state pretty hard.
it's up to him to determine if it's short run or not but his staff better start recruiting out of state pretty hard.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 10:32 am to VFL1800FPD
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He still managed to retain the 9th ranked recruiting class (according to 247).
Key word there is retain. I think we'd be having a different conversation if Muschamp had a top 10 class put together and McElwain was only trying to retain recruits. I don' think our class was ranked even in the top 70 when he was fired.
Posted on 1/31/15 at 10:59 am to gatorsimz
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He still managed to retain the 9th ranked recruiting class (according to 247).
Key word there is retain. I think we'd be having a different conversation if Muschamp had a top 10 class put together and McElwain was only trying to retain recruits. I don' think our class was ranked even in the top 70 when he was fired.
I agree, Kiffin had a top 5 class before he departed, plus there were a lot of EE's already on campus. Dooley was in a much better position than SchmeckleWang .
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Posted on 1/31/15 at 11:31 am to Ironhead985
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Is the ink dried on the LOI's yet, cocksmokers? I don't like UF, cause when they're good, they're GOOD. We have to play them every year. Either way, Mac inherited a pretty f'd up situation. Next year will be different. Oh, and frick bama, the plains, ole piss, Evan Stone and fat arse. The new fulmer and his donkey too. frick all of you. You brag vicious, thunderqueefs.
Ahhhh the always entertaining angry drunk post after you are once again forced to go home alone from the bar
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