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re: Gamecock football next year?
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:22 pm to theGarnetWay
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:22 pm to theGarnetWay
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If you're going to go with decline comments at least try something that isn't so generic and has been used for the past 10 years.
It's a known fact that Spurrier doesn't like to recruit and now he's going against staffs that are working their asses off.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:24 pm to BigOrangeBri
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It's a known fact that Spurrier doesn't like to recruit and now he's going against staffs that are working their asses off.
Okay so if Spurrier has always been a lazy recruiter how does that change anything? Our recruiting has been solid throughout the Spurrier years, why are you suggesting that this will suddenly change?
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:26 pm to High Diving Horses
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lol nah defense lost those, didn't they lose 3 games in which they had 14 point lead in 4th quarter?
Yea. Thompson kept throwing interceptions and getting sacked
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i'd rather get beat down by elite teams like that FSU and West Virginia team than lose 3 games like that to less talented teams
So you rather have get skullfricked and know your team sucks than lose by a couple and know your team had the chance to win?
GFY
This post was edited on 1/28/15 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:30 pm to Cockopotamus
yeah, the FSU game was just a turnover fest, our yardage against them was decent. FSU was on the other end of that in the game with Oregon this year, because they had similar yardage stats. fumble luck decides so many games. I wish they'd spot the ball at the team's 25 yard line rather than where it was recovered. it is good enough the team gets the ball back, good field position on top of that is double punishment.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:36 pm to High Diving Horses
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luck decides so many games
You must have a very broad definition of luck
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:40 pm to Cockopotamus
i am kind of against fumble recoveries at all, except if the qb gets sacked and drops it. Running backs are going to drop it sometimes b/c they getting hit like crazy. there are only so many possesions in football and some guy just dropping the ball for no reason or a lucky hit jarring it loose shouldn't decide games but it does. pretty much every upset in football is b/c of fumble luck. look it up
in the SC-clemson game two years, our punt / kickoff retuner fumbled twice. teams can't overcome that. fans wait all season for the gam and it decided by the frickin punt returner. lol Boyd also lost one in a scrum, he had like 10 gamecocks on him. he supposed to be superman and hold on to ball . lol that would be flagrant foul in basketball, just guys chopping at his hands.
in the SC-clemson game two years, our punt / kickoff retuner fumbled twice. teams can't overcome that. fans wait all season for the gam and it decided by the frickin punt returner. lol Boyd also lost one in a scrum, he had like 10 gamecocks on him. he supposed to be superman and hold on to ball . lol that would be flagrant foul in basketball, just guys chopping at his hands.
This post was edited on 1/28/15 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:46 pm to High Diving Horses
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in the SC-clemson game two years, our punt / kickoff retuner fumbled twice. teams can't overcome that. fans wait all season for the gam and it decided by the frickin punt returner. lol Boyd also lost one in a scrum, he had like 10 gamecocks on him. he supposed to be superman and hold on to ball . lol that would be flagrant foul in basketball, just guys chopping at his hands.
I knew you would mention this and I imagine it was the origin of your term "fumble luck"
This post was edited on 1/28/15 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:47 pm to theGarnetWay
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Okay so if Spurrier has always been a lazy recruiter how does that change anything? Our recruiting has been solid throughout the Spurrier years, why are you suggesting that this will suddenly change?
Because now kids know he'll only be around a couple more years. I mean, like 6 decommited after his comments.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:47 pm to Cockopotamus
clemson has won b/c of fumble luck before, such as against NC state two seasons ago. we end up scoring after that and put game awya. it isn't about the sc-clemson game. i'd rather force teams to win by stopping the other teamms from moving ball down the field than by fumble recoveries. You'll see a lot of defensive players more focused on hacking at ball than just making the tackle. To me it is kind of a cheap way to get ball back, kind of like those onside kicks. just makes the game seem like a farce.
This post was edited on 1/28/15 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:48 pm to BigOrangeBri
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Because now kids know he'll only be around a couple more years. I mean, like 6 decommited after his comments.
Okay but that doesn't mean we weren't able to recruit. Before those comments we had a top 5 class, indicating that Spurrier and his staff had and do have the ability to recruit at a high-level. The one dumb comment = / = SC suddenly lost its ability to recruit.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:51 pm to theGarnetWay
much of SC's success past few years was the in state talent was above average, guys like Clowney, Swearinger, Quarles all in state and happened to prefer SC over Clemson. It isn't as good right now and that is why you are seeing a dropoff.
This post was edited on 1/28/15 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:53 pm to GeorgeReymond
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Hopefully Miles can push it to 4-0 against Spurrier.
a given
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:59 pm to BayouBengals03
the funniest thing about Spurrier's comments leading to de-recruiting is that corner out of Charlotte, he said his dad had bought all this gamecock gear and the dad was mad he had to take it all back. lol then Clemson got the kid.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:39 am to High Diving Horses
Sweet Jeebus dat defensive end class! They'll be much improved especially if they get John Hoke
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:41 am to High Diving Horses
Their class is like number 12. Not seeing the drop off.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:51 am to GoldenDawg
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They will, however, beat Georgia.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:52 am to GeorgeReymond
I've got them at 6th in the East and 13th overall. They will be awful.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:56 am to GoldenDawg
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They will, however, beat Georgia.
Sc has a losing record in athens under spurrier, and this will be one of the worst teams they've brought in that time frame.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:14 am to WG_Dawg
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Sc has a losing record in athens under spurrier, and this will be one of the worst teams they've brought in that time frame.
I don't think the drop off is going to be nearly as big. A lot has already been pointed out in this thread.
Thompson had a lot of passing yards (he was 1st in the SEC,) but he made a lot of mistakes. We have a QB in Mitch going into his 3rd year with the program who is a much higher rated passer.
We lost 2 OL, but we have 4 coming back with starting experience and 8 of 10 from last year's 2 Deep. We have an upperclassmen TE coming back and arguably has the most Pro potential since Saunders.
We have 4 of our top 5 rushers returning, including 2 Sr's.
We have the most talent at WR available since 2007. We have a 1st Team All SEC WR in Cooper coming back.
We dramatically upgraded our pass rush, including 3 JUCO/Prep DE's who were #1 for their position coming out of their levels (Prep or JUCO.) Then we're bringing in 3 stud DE's from HS.
We took all of '14, but we figured out that Walton and Moore are our best LB's, and they're coming back for their Jr seasons.
We are losing 1 DB, and 6 of the 8 DB's from last year's 2 Deep are coming back, more experienced and with a lot of film of what NOT to do. Our DB's got much better as the season progressed last year, it just took time and experience.
We have a All SEC kicker coming back in Fry and we have the #1 HS Punter coming in.
Still we could win anywhere between 6-13 Reg Season games, there are things that will need to be proven rather than speculated. However, these same coaches who produced garbage last year produced THREE 11-2 teams previously to that.
Our biggest weakness last year was Pass Rush and youth at DB. Teams exploited that most of the season. We've addressed both those issues really well with recruiting. Cocks Comin
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:21 am to JesusQuintana
I predict they will be terrible, but with a good chance at fricking up UGA's season as usual
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