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Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:00 pm to randomways
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Maybe he was talking about white people in North America, since the U.S. as we know it did develop and become a piece of land worth fighting over from a thriving slave trade (in part from the famous Atlantic triangle trading system) generally run by white people. Maybe he was concatenating the various societies into a continuum.
Why are the sellers of slaves in Africa never indited in this "white slavery" issue? While I am against slavery in any form, it is still a part of this subject. Black people sold black people to white people. Even Native Americans bought black slaves. My Indian ancestors were slaves to the Cherokee. They were Catawba/Creek Indians, but enumerated in the Guion Miller commission census as slaves. It is not just a white problem. The triangle of trade was slaves from Africa taken to the colonies, then, sugar cane to England for rum, and then back to Africa.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:06 pm to BrerTiger
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Batey
Congrats on the sex
Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:43 pm to randomways
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not that I want to get drawn into this entire discussion of race -- you don't actually know what he allegedly meant by his alleged words. Maybe he was talking about white people in North America, since the U.S. as we know it did develop and become a piece of land worth fighting over from a thriving slave trade (in part from the famous Atlantic triangle trading system) generally run by white people. Maybe he was concatenating the various societies into a continuum. Or maybe he was just drunk and stupid and a rapist and not rehearsing what his drunk and stupid rapist arse was spouting. Maybe it's all of these things. Maybe it's nothing. Who can say what the truth is in a world that has killed Santa Claus?
Underrated post.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 12:26 am to farmer brown
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Why are the sellers of slaves in Africa never indicted in this "white slavery" issue?
Because people never seem to grasp the fact that all Africans weren't on the same team
Africans who sold other Africans into slavery were usually from warring tribes/factions on the continent, not unlike the many inter-European wars. Not denying that it's a part of the subject, but people who bring it up usually do so in improper context.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 4:39 am to BrerTiger
What was done to this girl is truly disgusting.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 5:47 am to randomways
quote:Seems pretty clear to me.
you don't actually know what he allegedly meant by his alleged words.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:15 am to Killean
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If BLACK people didn’t SELL BLACK people on the African market,
to white people..
To anybody....slavery was practiced in Africa, Asia, and Europe LONG before the "New World"
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Jews were slaughtered and persecuted.
by white people..
By Nazi's (a political party.) Remember, the first country the Nazi's invaded was their own (Germany) ....This is a discussion about slavery in AMERICA right?
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Women were treated as an inferior gender.
by white people, particularly the religious ones
By people throughout history. Even Asians require their women to be completely subservient. This is not a "White" thing.
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American born Japanese people were put in concentration camps during WW2.
by white people..
And Black people...soldiers in general were tasked with this...again, not a "White" thing.
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I'm gonna crawl out on a limb and say that you're probably a racist
Bleeding-heart, white apologist, liberal assholes like you are a big reason racism still exists today. Instead of allowing someone to build themselves up, you just stand behind them saying that it's ok...someone else is to blame for all their problems.
White people like me are not holding black people back...white people like you are. This country abolished slavery in 1865 but your god damn liberal agenda has kept them in chains since.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:48 am to KajunGator
Racism exists because people are always more comfortable thinking bad about the "other". The only practical way to end racism is to find aliens :P
As for being an apologist.. no.. I'm a historian. My particular focus is terrorism. That's where you'll find people of every race and creed using their own warped views to justify blowing other people up.
You'll learn that an islamic fundamentalist blowing up an airplane is pretty much the same as a christian fundamentalist blowing up an abortion clinic. You'll learn that more people have been killed by domestic terrorism than by international terrorism. You'll learn that the KKK has killed more people in the United States than Al Qaeda.
You can also learn that institutionalized racism on the National scale died out only as a result of World War II. It happened for two reasons, one, as a result of the horrible acts committed by the Nazis which were shared widely by new mediums of communication (since genocide wasn't exactly unknown historically) and because of the different races all fighting and doing so effectively which shattered preconceived notions (Japanese can't see at night).
Most importantly though, you'll figure out that just because one group of people are assholes doesn't mean that the other group is nice. In history, everybody is an a-hole.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:51 am to Killean
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In history, everybody is an a-hole.
This...I am in total agreement with
Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:53 am to Carolina_Girl
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I have this really sick feeling that had the roles been reversed, that statement would have been made the epicenter of the entire case.
If a group of white guys had allegedly raped a black girl and had allegedly said something extremely racist while allegedly peeing on her, it would have been 24/7 news on every single network and newspaper for months.
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:02 am to Ldrake53
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Posted by Ldrake53
because both prosecuters and defense realized it would have tainted the whole trial. Instead of barbaric and violent sex acts against a woman it would have been all about racism, and the racists from both sides would have been screaming...white racists screaming about hyprocrisy ridiculous double standards and black racists screaming about how his mind was warped by 300 years of racism; guy was piece of shite who happened to be black just like the other guy was a piece of shite who happened to be white.
This.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:04 am to Killean
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The only practical way to end racism is to find aliens
Then why support the divide? Quit saying all black problems are caused by white people...cause it's just not true.
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You can also learn that institutionalized racism on the National scale died out only as a result of World War II.
As long as there are Black only schools, Fraternities, Scholarships, Organizations, the Congressional Black Caucus, etc. institutionalized racism will continue. It seems today that it's acceptable for black only organizations ot exist, but a white only one would be deemed racist.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:12 am to BrerTiger
All that slavery must have been really tough on that kid.
Certainly an inhumane time, and one we have grown far from; America has a history of being one of the least racist countries in the world having accepted co-existance of multiple races and religions. Those were tough times in a fairly young country and guess what? The fight to make it right over a 100+ years from important people of all race has made a difference. There will always be people ignorant enough to expect something from life. It's sad to think of the people who have spent their whole lives making a difference and then hearing of a random citizen just screw it all up.
Certainly an inhumane time, and one we have grown far from; America has a history of being one of the least racist countries in the world having accepted co-existance of multiple races and religions. Those were tough times in a fairly young country and guess what? The fight to make it right over a 100+ years from important people of all race has made a difference. There will always be people ignorant enough to expect something from life. It's sad to think of the people who have spent their whole lives making a difference and then hearing of a random citizen just screw it all up.
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:14 am to BrerTiger
this is obviously sick and disgusting, and the thing is Vandy has always had this attitude of being above all the riff raff of collegiate athletics. if this had occurred at any other school, the Vandy fans would all be thinking "yes, but at least it could never happen here."
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:15 am to Killean
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I'm pretty sure that not a single white person out there would trade races in the United States
I would in a heartbeat.
Hell, with my credentials I'd be able to get a free ride to many universities or at least some scholarship money for being black or hispanic- especially black.
Instead, I had to work my arse off and still take out a minimal amount of student loans.
Heck, I'd probably even get in to Harvard law with my scores and GPA if I wasn't white.
That's truth, no matter how you slice it. They're getting more opportunity in higher education because libs feel all whites are rich and can afford it.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:32 am to michaeldwde
#blacklivesmatter
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:35 am to lsusteltz16
quote:Well, let's look at the low end of Harvard Law School admissions:
I would in a heartbeat.
Hell, with my credentials I'd be able to get a free ride to many universities or at least some scholarship money for being black or hispanic- especially black.
Instead, I had to work my arse off and still take out a minimal amount of student loans.
Heck, I'd probably even get in to Harvard law with my scores and GPA if I wasn't white.
That's truth, no matter how you slice it. They're getting more opportunity in higher education because libs feel all whites are rich and can afford it.
25th percentile GPA: 3.75
25th percentile LSAT: 170
A score of 170 on the LSAT is above the 97th percentile, so it's pretty damn good.
The average student accepted into Harvard Law has a 3.87 GPA and a 173 LSAT, which is 99th percentile.
So the minorities who are granted admission to Harvard Law are pretty damn elite, and are probably better students than you.
Harvard Law is only 41% "students of color" (not sure how they define that). Considering they take international students, and that the American age group of 20-24 years old is 33% minority, the demographics of Harvard Law are not really that lopsided.
edit: Serious question: do you sincerely feel like your status as a white male in the United States has held you back from accomplishing your personal or professional goals?
This post was edited on 1/29/15 at 8:39 am
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:39 am to Hog on the Hill
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Well, let's look at the low end of Harvard Law School admissions:
25th percentile GPA: 3.75
25th percentile LSAT: 170
A score of 170 on the LSAT is above the 97th percentile, so it's pretty damn good.
The average student accepted into Harvard Law has a 3.87 GPA and a 173 LSAT, which is 99th percentile.
So the minorities who are granted admission to Harvard Law are pretty damn elite, and are probably better students than you.
Harvard Law is only 41% "students of color" (not sure how they define that). Considering they take international students, and that the American age group of 20-24 years old is 33% minority, the demographics of Harvard Law are not really that lopsided.
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You're not seeing the forest for the trees.
Where are the scholarship opportunities if you're Christian or white? I am both white and Christian, but grew up dirt poor.
Also, my LSAT and GPA would be competitive with Harvard's 25th percentile. I guarantee I would have been admitted if my name was something like Tyrese Jefferson.
Luckily, I didn't saddle myself with debt and chose to get into another field after my studies.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:46 am to lsusteltz16
If Obama wasn't black, he would've ended up at a mediocre state law school. FACT
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A hispanic guy that I work with had a kid with an SAT score of 1380 (on the old 1600 max scale) and a 3.9 GPA get into MIT. WHile 1380 and 3.9 is nothing to sneeze at, it isn't MIT worthy without him being Mexican.
Just sayin'''
As wrong as it is, this is why whenever I see a minority at a major school I automatically assume affirmative action.
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A hispanic guy that I work with had a kid with an SAT score of 1380 (on the old 1600 max scale) and a 3.9 GPA get into MIT. WHile 1380 and 3.9 is nothing to sneeze at, it isn't MIT worthy without him being Mexican.
Just sayin'''
As wrong as it is, this is why whenever I see a minority at a major school I automatically assume affirmative action.
This post was edited on 1/29/15 at 8:49 am
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