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Former NLF'ers write in support of medical marijuana

Posted on 1/26/15 at 3:40 pm
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
6995 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 3:40 pm
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Mark Richt's anti-cannabis stance needs to be eliminated. An estimated 60% of NFL players use marijuana, in large part, because they know the dangers of opiates and NSAIDs.

The UGA policy hurts players and the program.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25870 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 3:42 pm to
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Richt's anti-cannabis stance needs to be eliminated.

It's not his but does need to be eliminated.
Posted by BoneDrownedDaveReal
Central State Hospital, Georgia
Member since Mar 2014
152 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 7:26 pm to
I disagree wholeheartedly. Pot makes teenagers inconsistent and goofy and lowers their emotional intelligence and decision making skills. You start getting into underdeveloped prefrontal cortexes and brain chemistry and stuff like that.

There's a huge difference between a 28 year old smoking dope and an 18 year old basically.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25870 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 7:29 pm to
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I disagree wholeheartedly. Pot makes teenagers inconsistent and goofy and lowers their emotional intelligence and decision making skills. You start getting into underdeveloped prefrontal cortexes and brain chemistry and stuff like that.

There's a huge difference between a 28 year old smoking dope and an 18 year old basically.

Alcohol isn't any better. UGA doesn't suspend players for that.
Posted by BoneDrownedDaveReal
Central State Hospital, Georgia
Member since Mar 2014
152 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 10:38 pm to
Two wrongs do not make a right. At some point it's be nice if America could have a marijuana discussion without people getting all anecdotal and making an "oh yeah...well what about alcohol" reference from the get. It's nothing but a distraction and it's counterproductive.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25870 posts
Posted on 1/26/15 at 10:42 pm to
OK, well how does UGA's current policy currently help educate and alter the behavior of student-athletes? Do you think suspensions serve as an effective deterrent? Do you think a permanent and public black mark on their name is a just penalty for a relatively harmless mistake?
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14146 posts
Posted on 1/27/15 at 4:53 am to
We should let them do coke too....it keeps you up so you can have more time to study....

....and could also possibly improve your 40 time.
Posted by Fats
Member since Nov 2012
3316 posts
Posted on 1/27/15 at 7:07 am to
You are right they should use painkillers like the rest of the country because they are "legal".
Posted by Dawg in Beaumont
Athens
Member since Jan 2012
4494 posts
Posted on 1/27/15 at 7:38 am to
If you're gonna say "alcohol is bad too" isn't a legitimate argument for legalization then you should also admit that:
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It's nothing but a distraction and it's counterproductive.

isn't a legitimate argument for criminalization.

My argument for legalized weed isn't that it's good for you or inherently safe (I view it the same way I view beer, very fatty foods and 4 wheelers), my argument is that I don't like black markets or nanny states.
Posted by Sanford&MunSon
T'Ville
Member since Jan 2013
2901 posts
Posted on 1/27/15 at 7:53 am to
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underdeveloped prefrontal cortex


As in teenagers have a under developed prefrontal cortex or that marijuana causes this?
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3000 posts
Posted on 1/27/15 at 8:32 am to
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I view it the same way I view beer, very fatty foods and 4 wheelers....my argument is that I don't like black markets or nanny states.


That's a valid argument and I agree with it. The only problem I have is that many people don't carry it to the logical conclusion. If you allow individuals to make lifestyle choices that may damage their health and productivity, then you shouldn't socialize the cost of providing for their healthcare and upkeep. It's a pretty simple concept; one person's rights end where another person's obligation begins.
This post was edited on 1/27/15 at 8:36 am
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25870 posts
Posted on 1/27/15 at 8:48 am to
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If you allow individuals to make lifestyle choices that may damage their health and productivity, then you shouldn't socialize the cost of providing for their healthcare and upkeep. It's a pretty simple concept; one person's rights end where another person's obligation begins.

It seems to me that he addressed that with the nanny state comment.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14146 posts
Posted on 1/27/15 at 8:49 am to
IMHO you guys are missing the point.

The question shouldn't be whether pot should be legalized...I personally think it should be if for no other reason than to quit spending the time and resources for enforcement.

The question is until it is legalized do you as a a University turn a blind eye to your student athletes using an illegal substance. You can't just decide what laws you want to break because you don't like them.

I don't like the government taking half my income every year....but try just not paying and see what happens.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25870 posts
Posted on 1/27/15 at 8:51 am to
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The question is until it is legalized do you as a a University turn a blind eye to your student athletes using an illegal substance. You can't just decide what laws you want to break because you don't like them.

I haven't said anything about turning a blind eye to it. I think the University should reconsider the method of its disciplinary policy. I don't think automatic suspension helps anyone.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3000 posts
Posted on 1/27/15 at 8:57 am to
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It seems to me that he addressed that with the nanny state comment.


I wasn't disagreeing with what he said, just pointing out that many proponents of individual freedoms aren't willing to include freedom to fail. Particularly when it's their own welfare at stake.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 1/27/15 at 3:31 pm to
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An estimated 60% of NFL players use marijuana, in large part, because they know the dangers of opiates and NSAIDs


More like "in large part because they enjoy getting high". Everything else is secondary; it's just easier to claim that people are in favor of it because of the secondary benefits.

Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 1/27/15 at 3:34 pm to
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We should let them do coke too....it keeps you up so you can have more time to study....

....and could also possibly improve your 40 time.


Meth is more effective and cheaper (and we could make it in our chemistry department). Might want to add PCP to the mix - lets you ignore injuries, and when combined with meth, would definitely give the defensive players some added uh..."intensity".
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 1/27/15 at 4:28 pm to
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I haven't said anything about turning a blind eye to it. I think the University should reconsider the method of its disciplinary policy. I don't think automatic suspension helps anyone.


You wrong Crow- automatic suspensions help SCU, UT, Bama and AU immensely. They are very much in favor of our brave stand against marijuana.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3000 posts
Posted on 1/27/15 at 4:51 pm to
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help SCU, UT, Bama and AU immensely


It may help their recruiting in some cases, but it may hurt their team in other ways. Some of those teams have had serious breakdown in team morale and conduct in recent years. Auburn let their drug use get out of control and eventually had to hire security people to try to regain control. Not to mention several armed robbery and gunplay incidents. Personally, if I had a son who was a hotshot athlete with a big ego, I wouldn't mind a bit of extra discipline in his college years.
This post was edited on 1/27/15 at 5:08 pm
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