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Posted on 1/23/15 at 2:22 pm to Wtodd
Ha, fair enough Wtodd!
Posted on 1/23/15 at 4:15 pm to jafo
quote:lol, did you really just make a comparison between the talent Kentucky and Mizzou have right now? I'm shocked we came up short on that. I need to check the rosters again.
Kentucky? That's talent winning games. Some of those are freshman also. I don't see that here.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 11:43 am to mosoblkcougar
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Just keep turning a blind eye to the problem, maybe that will help.
Not turning a blind eye. Even though I knew this was going to be a tough year, I have still been disappointed in the team's performance. We let some winnable games get away, and that falls back on the coach and players. I just don't see how being overly-critical IS helping.
Fair weather fans bitch and moan and boycott the team, then complain that attendance sucks at Mizzou Arena. If you jump off the bandwagon, then you forfeit your right to complain. We all know the problems that need to be fixed.
ETA: Just saw this article on Coach K:
Impatient Duke fans once wanted Mike Krzyzewski fired.
Three years into his tenure at Duke, the man now known as his era's most successful coach didn't appear to be on the road to shattering records or hoisting championship trophies.
In fact, a vocal segment of the Blue Devils fan base wanted Mike Krzyzewski out.
One of Duke's Tobacco Road rivals had just completed a stunning championship run under beloved coach Jim Valvano. The other was at the apex of its power under legendary coach Dean Smith. The Blue Devils on the other hand had just concluded back-to-back 17-loss seasons under Krzyzewski culminating with a 43-point shellacking in the 1983 ACC quarterfinals against Virginia.
Entire article here: LINK
This post was edited on 1/24/15 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 1/24/15 at 1:39 pm to MIZ83
Missed 4 shots from 6" away. Hanging tough though.
Why do all of the other coaches on the bench show more intensity than KA? I get wanting to be a calming influence but half the time, while other coaches are coaching and intense, KA seems to be standing there like he doesn't know what to do next. I know that's not the case. Just the look it gives.
Why do all of the other coaches on the bench show more intensity than KA? I get wanting to be a calming influence but half the time, while other coaches are coaching and intense, KA seems to be standing there like he doesn't know what to do next. I know that's not the case. Just the look it gives.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 3:13 pm to reedus23
Can't blame this one on KA. Clark just flat choked at the line. This team just continues to disappoint.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 3:25 pm to mosoblkcougar
I've never been impressed with Clark. Has a history of taking shite shots, and even his "good shots" he still misses a ton. I was not surprised when he missed both free throws.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 3:31 pm to Mizzou4ever
I wasn't surprised either. But gotta give him credit where due too. Without his shooting down the stretch, we wouldn't have even had a chance at the win.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 3:35 pm to reedus23
But he couldn't close the deal which is all that matters. If he had been a good or even decent player while here, I would cut him some slack. He chocked, and again, wasn't surprised.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 3:42 pm to mosoblkcougar
I do feel bad for Clark, he was doing very well up to that point. And it was great to see Teki back to his old self. We need to learn to win, we had that game in hand, and at worst should have force OT. They played better this game at least.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 3:45 pm to Mizzou4ever
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But he couldn't close the deal which is all that matters. If he had been a good or even decent player while here, I would cut him some slack. He chocked, and again, wasn't surprised.
My point is that it is a group effort losing like this. Can't just put it on 1 player. I can't tell you how many shots were missed from 6" away. That's inches. Not feet. Make just those shots and we win by 10.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 4:00 pm to Tigersessed
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ol, did you really just make a comparison between the talent Kentucky and Mizzou have right now? I'm shocked we came up short on that. I need to check the rosters again.
So, are you in agreement then?
Posted on 1/24/15 at 4:07 pm to reedus23
I understand your point bro, and I'm not placing the blame on Clark for the loss. Just commenting I've never been impressed with him and no surprise he chocked. 
Posted on 1/24/15 at 4:09 pm to reedus23
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Personally, I think there is talent. What I think is lacking is basketball IQ.
I can't totally disagree that's some of it.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 7:38 pm to jafo
quote:Yes, I agree UK has more talent, including their freshmen, than Mizzou. I lol'd because there are probably better benchmarks than a team that is in the discussion for the best accumulation of talent in history.
So, are you in agreement then?
Posted on 1/25/15 at 9:39 am to Tigersessed
So you feel it's not a fair comparison? Same conference, must play them every year. Why not use Kentucky as a benchmark?
Posted on 1/25/15 at 12:11 pm to jafo
You were making a point that you did not see talent on this team and used UK as your comparison. Yes I thought that was funny. Very few teams in the history of college BB have the talent UK has right now. You can use whatever discussion points you want, no matter how absurd. I think there are better ways to try and make your point. I guess I'm just confused on what point you are trying to make.
How close this team has played more experienced teams, plus the eye ball test, IMO shows some talent. We have 2 players older than sophomore contributing to this team and neither is a star player. I don't know how this rebuild will play out, but young talent is not the issue right now IMO. We are severly lacking some post play talent right now that teams like Kentucky have. That has to be fixed by recruiting.
How close this team has played more experienced teams, plus the eye ball test, IMO shows some talent. We have 2 players older than sophomore contributing to this team and neither is a star player. I don't know how this rebuild will play out, but young talent is not the issue right now IMO. We are severly lacking some post play talent right now that teams like Kentucky have. That has to be fixed by recruiting.
This post was edited on 1/25/15 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 1/25/15 at 12:25 pm to 5thTiger
A hell of a game with a team of freshman and sophomores that took a superior hog team down to the wire and lost in heart breaking fashion. Wes Clark showed me he cared and that he is a Missouri Tiger! They fought hard and that is what I want to see. I don't need a Bo Pelini type screaming on the sidelines. Some have said the same thing about CGP not showing enough emotion. This is and will be a frustrating season but there is a good young nucleus. Two of the more talented freshman Gant and Wright need to improve their D if they want more PT. I think they both will shine at some point during the season.
Posted on 1/25/15 at 3:14 pm to Tigersessed
I don't see how comparing talent levels between two division opponents is absurd. Evidently in your mind it is.
My opinion is I don't think this team is as talented as others want to portray and if you want to see talent, look at Kentucky. Don't understand whats so confusing with that.
This whole exchange is what's absurd.
My opinion is I don't think this team is as talented as others want to portray and if you want to see talent, look at Kentucky. Don't understand whats so confusing with that.
This whole exchange is what's absurd.
Posted on 1/25/15 at 6:01 pm to Stlweir
Wes Clark is a tiger but I've never been impressed with his play. Imo, Wes Clark is a D2 player. I attend Central Missouri and can say that we've had better players than Clark at the D2 level. Also, I think KA is a good hire. KA know's the game of basketball to a T and he will teach his players the mathematical fundamentals of the game as well. Frank Haith destroyed this organization with his lack of recruiting and poor coaching. I don't think there's any way you can properly access KA performance on the job this year. When the Tigers are down 20 at half im not going to keep watching.
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