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re: Ethnical Ancesty stemming from Noah
Posted on 1/20/15 at 4:01 pm to Recruitingjunkie
Posted on 1/20/15 at 4:01 pm to Recruitingjunkie
I have a dumb question: what women were around for these men to frick after the flood?
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 4:16 pm to PrivatePublic
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what women were around for these men to frick after the flood?
story says they were married....and had sisters
Posted on 1/20/15 at 5:42 pm to DownSouthJukin
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a descendent of Zuul.
My great, great grandparents were Shuvs. Believe they were neighbors with the Zuuls. Small world, right?
Posted on 1/20/15 at 6:39 pm to Recruitingjunkie
Did anyone else laugh when they saw Ham's black son's name was "Cush"? 
Posted on 1/20/15 at 7:48 pm to Recruitingjunkie
Damn... y'all Protestants sure do dig deep when you go full retard
Posted on 1/20/15 at 8:19 pm to OMLandshark
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Too bad a basic test in genetics disproves all this stupid shite.
Genetics ... a false concept programmed into our psyche by the matrix.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 8:51 pm to KajunGator
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story says they were married....and had sisters
Roll damn flood?
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:14 am to Roger Klarvin
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Do you not see how much spin and rationalization this requires to believe?
That law didn't exist in Noah's time and wasn't given until long after Noah was dead. Doesn't seem contrived at all. For as many "gotchas" there are in the Bible, I don't know why you would pick something that isn't one at all for your soapbox.
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 9:18 am
Posted on 1/21/15 at 1:43 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Do you not see how much spin and rationalization this requires to believe?
Seems like common sense to me
Posted on 1/21/15 at 7:41 pm to TbirdSpur2010
And that's all I have to say about that.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:10 pm to kingbob
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Noah predates the covenant, which was established as a set of rules to create a healthy, functional society.
Why would God create the first Covenant if he knew it would fail?
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Therefor, they did what they had to do.
I mean people have been having incest for forever, but homo sapiens evolved from a variety of homo species. Devisova hominin, H. antecessor, H. cepranensis, H. erectus, H. ergaster, H. floresiensis, H. gautengensis, H. habilis, H. heidelbergensis, H. neanderthalensis, H. rhodesiensis, H. rudolfensis, Red Deer Cave people, H. sapiens idaltu, and modern humans.
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Adam and Even's children had incestuous relationships as well.
Adam and Eve are a fairy tale. Its not possible that all human beings evolved from two individuals 6,000 years ago.
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Pre covenant and post covenant is very very different, just as 1st covenant (10 Commandments and Laws of Moses) is very different from 2nd covenant (Jesus's teachings and the rules of Christianity)
Again. What's the purpose of a second covenant? Why would God create the first covenant if he knew it would fail? Same reason Muslims talk about why Mohamed was necessary after Jesus. It's all fairy tale.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 7:13 am to TeLeFaWx
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Adam and Eve are a fairy tale. Its not possible that all human beings evolved from two individuals 6,000 years ago.
Adam and Eve were lost in translation ages ago. Ancient Hebrew translates them into "Man" and "To Live" respectfully. So the fable of Adam and Eve wasn't about the first to people...it's the origin of ALL people. The story was made up to explain our existence to people who had no understanding of the world around them.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 8:36 am to KajunGator
Wasn't Noah just a rip off of the Sumerian flood story?
Where the tablet picks up, the gods An, Enlil, Enki and Ninhursanga create the black-headed people and create comfortable conditions for the animals to live and procreate. Then kingship descends from heaven and the first cities are founded: Eridu, Bad-tibira, Larak, Sippar, and Shuruppak.
After a missing section in the tablet, we learn that the gods have decided not to save mankind from an impending flood. Zi-ud-sura, the king and gudug priest, learns of this. In the later Akkadian version, Ea, or Enki in Sumerian, the god of the waters, warns the hero (Atra-hasis in this case) and gives him instructions for the ark. This is missing in the Sumerian fragment, but a mention of Enki taking counsel with himself suggests that this is Enki's role in the Sumerian version as well.
When the tablet resumes it is describing the flood. A terrible storm rocks the huge boat for seven days and seven nights, then Utu (the Sun god) appears and Zi-ud-sura creates an opening in the boat, prostrates himself, and sacrifices oxen and sheep.
After another break the text resumes: the flood is apparently over, the animals disembark and Zi-ud-sura prostrates himself before An (sky-god) and Enlil (chief of the gods), who give him eternal life and take him to dwell in Dilmun for "preserving the animals and the seed of mankind". The remainder of the poem is lost.[2]
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Where the tablet picks up, the gods An, Enlil, Enki and Ninhursanga create the black-headed people and create comfortable conditions for the animals to live and procreate. Then kingship descends from heaven and the first cities are founded: Eridu, Bad-tibira, Larak, Sippar, and Shuruppak.
After a missing section in the tablet, we learn that the gods have decided not to save mankind from an impending flood. Zi-ud-sura, the king and gudug priest, learns of this. In the later Akkadian version, Ea, or Enki in Sumerian, the god of the waters, warns the hero (Atra-hasis in this case) and gives him instructions for the ark. This is missing in the Sumerian fragment, but a mention of Enki taking counsel with himself suggests that this is Enki's role in the Sumerian version as well.
When the tablet resumes it is describing the flood. A terrible storm rocks the huge boat for seven days and seven nights, then Utu (the Sun god) appears and Zi-ud-sura creates an opening in the boat, prostrates himself, and sacrifices oxen and sheep.
After another break the text resumes: the flood is apparently over, the animals disembark and Zi-ud-sura prostrates himself before An (sky-god) and Enlil (chief of the gods), who give him eternal life and take him to dwell in Dilmun for "preserving the animals and the seed of mankind". The remainder of the poem is lost.[2]
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:04 am to Person of interest
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Wasn't Noah just a rip off of the Sumerian flood story?
Most of the bible is a compilation of stories, myths, fables, and legends from different peoples.
Garden of Eden from the Zoroastrians
Ten Commandments from the Egyptian Book of the Dead
The Creation by God=The Creation from Chaos in Greek Mythology
Biblical flood caused by God=Flood caused by Zeus
People told the King of the Jews would be born and challenge authority=Cronos told that Zeus would be born and overthrow him
Jesus born of a virgin and a deity (God)=Dinoysus born of a virgin and a deity (Zeus)
Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:32 pm to KajunGator
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Adam and Eve were lost in translation ages ago. Ancient Hebrew translates them into "Man" and "To Live" respectfully. So the fable of Adam and Eve wasn't about the first to people...it's the origin of ALL people. The story was made up to explain our existence to people who had no understanding of the world around them.
Very plausible.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:34 pm to KajunGator
That's what I have come to believe. The specifics are unimportant. Fairy tales are fairy tales.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 1:43 pm to Recruitingjunkie
The thread disintegrated quickly.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:51 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Do you not see how much spin and rationalization this requires to believe?
There is one little interesting thing about Noah's ark. Population experts say that if you took the people described on it and extrapolated the population of the earth, the population of the earth would be in the range it is in currently. If you go back thousands of years there is no way to account for the current population even considering all possibilities.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 3:59 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Again. What's the purpose of a second covenant? Why would God create the first covenant if he knew it would fail? Same reason Muslims talk about why Mohamed was necessary after Jesus. It's all fairy tale.
A lot of people adamantly say similar things...until they face a terminal illness or some life and death scenario. Then they become much less sure of their beliefs.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 4:01 pm to mbogo
The world population in 35,000 BCE is estimated to have been around 3 million people who subsisted as hunter-gatherers.[26] The population had increased to around 15 million by the time agriculture was invented around 12,000 years ago.[27] By contrast, it is estimated that around 50–60 million people lived in the combined eastern and western Roman Empire in the 4th century AD.[28]
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They don't seem to include any mass drowning.
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They don't seem to include any mass drowning.
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