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re: Who is going to volunteer to do our season long baseball thread?

Posted on 1/21/15 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by skirpnasty
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Posted on 1/21/15 at 12:18 pm to
Well you have Preston finally 100%, who was the best pitcher in the fall. Ross is back. Butch expects Jesse McCord to be a freshman all American. Then we also have Laster and Sexton back. I think that's probably your list of guys potentially starting.

Fitts and Tatum were both moved to the pen, allows them to turn lose a little more and Tatum to use his nasty breaking ball more. I think they are going to go a long way in picking up the slack left by the draft.

Not expecting much out of Hudson this year but he could be a bonus.
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 12:20 pm
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Posted on 1/21/15 at 2:55 pm to
Mitchell has been moved back to the pen as well.
Posted by ColKilgore
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Posted on 1/21/15 at 3:28 pm to
Weekend Starters:
LHP Laster
RHP Brown
RHP Sexton/Hudson

Mid-Week Starters:
LHP D Brown(juco)
RHP Sexton/Hudson
RHP McCord(frosh)

Long Relief:
LHP Mitchell

Mid Relief:
RHP Gentry
RHP Young
LHP Stover(frosh)

Setup:
LHP Tatum
RHP Houston

Closer:
RHP Fitts
Posted by skirpnasty
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Posted on 1/21/15 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

RHP McCord(frosh)

McCord won't be a midweek guy. Don't be surprised if he's one of our best pitchers this season. Our guys really couldn't hit him in the fall and 6 months with Butch had to have been beneficial for him.


quote:

RHP Sexton/Hudson

They lowered Hudson's slot in the offseason. I don't know how he has progressed since but his ERA for the fall games was like 37. I'm hoping he's getting back to his potential but I wouldn't be surprised if it takes him a year to get comfortable with the change. I definitely can't see him being a weekend starter at this point. However, I sure hope I'm wrong.
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 3:43 pm
Posted by 17theBears
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Posted on 1/21/15 at 3:47 pm to
I'm hoping to see Hudson fill the closer role.
Posted by Tds & Beer
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Posted on 1/21/15 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

Not expecting much out of Hudson this year but he could be a bonus.


I would be shocked if he isn't at least pretty good this year.
Posted by Tds & Beer
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Posted on 1/21/15 at 4:02 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 4:03 pm
Posted by skirpnasty
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Posted on 1/21/15 at 4:37 pm to
I hope you are right. I'm just trying not to be overly optimistic.
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Posted on 1/21/15 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

They lowered Hudson's slot in the offseason. I don't know how he has progressed since but his ERA for the fall games was like 37


Did you mean 3.7? Even so that is still a little higher than good.
Posted by skirpnasty
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Posted on 1/21/15 at 5:02 pm to
No, it was literally like 36.67. At least that's what mean gene reported.

ETA: Stats were:
2.2 IP
9 Hits
3 SO
8 BB
11 ER
11 R

This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 5:10 pm
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:47 pm to
Oh ok

I thought you were meaning his era was good and I was like surely you jest.
Posted by TaxmanMSU
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Posted on 1/21/15 at 10:35 pm to
Someone want to give us a little explanation of the ball situation this year? New balls? Going back to old balls? Lowered seam? ...what does it all mean?

TIA
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 10:36 pm
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 7:53 am to
Lower seams.

It means less air resistance. Less movement for pitchers, less wind resistance after contact. Should serve for more homeruns and more hits altogether.
Posted by skirpnasty
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 8:06 am to
I'm wondering how much we will see pitch velocity increase. Four seam and two seam pitches seem like they should be more similar. However slightly.

I find it retarded that they lower the seams, taking away skill from the game, instead of just fixing the damn bats.
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 8:29 am to
quote:

I find it retarded that they lower the seams, taking away skill from the game, instead of just fixing the damn bats.


You realize they're just lowering them to the minor league standard? Major League's seams are even lower. I wouldn't think that takes any skill away from the game, it basically makes you use skill even more...

This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 8:30 am
Posted by skirpnasty
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 8:47 am to
I don't know, it makes balls easier to hit. I would say it makes defending more difficult because more balls will be in the field but really takes away from pitch movement. Less movement on pitches means we should in theory see more strikes too. Definitely makes things easier on hitters.

I think Cohen's teams, being super defensive minded, will benefit because we don't make many fielding errors. I just hate to see pitching decline because of it. Maybe it won't make as big a difference as I'm thinking, I doubt we see huge breaking balls like Holder's with the new seam though.

Another thing I see happening is Butch's pitching system benefiting from it, relative to other teams. Less movement is going to put more emphasis on velocity and the way we keep guys in for shorter spans allows them to throw harder.

I'm probably over analyzing all this.
Posted by DynastyDawg
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 8:57 am to
quote:

I'm probably over analyzing all this.


yeah I think so.

College getting as close to the minors and majors in terms of equipment specs will be a good thing for the guys IMO.
Posted by skirpnasty
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:09 am to
I would love to see college go to wooden bats.
Posted by engie
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:11 am to
It doesn't take away from movement. It takes away from grip slightly. Which only really effects the most borderline of pitching talents(read -- not the guys that sign with MSU) in a major way. As the talent level goes up, the seams matter less. Breakers can see a slight loss, but 2 seamers see a notable gain. Net value = 0.

I've yet to see or hear of a pitcher or position player that didn't prefer the new ball...

For reference, the college ball actually has the highest seams of any used at any level...
This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 9:33 am
Posted by 17theBears
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 9:23 am to
quote:

I would love to see college go to wooden bats.


I would love to see this as well. However, I just don't think it is feasible.
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