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Metro Detroit Islamic Leaders Condemn Paris Killings...
Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:07 pm
So there are some that are beginning to speak up.
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DEARBORN HEIGHTS, Mich. (WJBK) - Local Islamic leaders are speaking out and condemning the killings in Paris
They are also honoring the victims and showing solidarity with the people of France.
The Friday sermon at the Islamic House of Wisdom in Dearborn Heights by Imam Mohammed Elahi was emotional.
"They are worse than animals," he said. "Because they are not showing peace, they are not showing rationality, and they are not showing respect for human rights.
"There is no moral, rational and religious justification for what they did in Paris."
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:08 pm to CatFan81
Taqiyya
Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:13 pm to CatFan81
quote:I'd say they're tired of killing by now.
Detroit Islamic Leaders
Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:13 pm to CatFan81
Good to see. Hope they're joined by many many others.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:18 pm to CatFan81
Yeah, they did the same after 9/11 and every other terror attack.
At some point they need to not be retroactive and try to prevent this from happening.
At some point they need to not be retroactive and try to prevent this from happening.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:20 pm to DarthRebel
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At some point they need to not be retroactive and try to prevent this from happening.
How would you suggest this happens?
Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:21 pm to CatFan81
It's not that simple with Islam and Muslims ... I wish it were.
There are passages in the Quran that instruct Muslims to be deceitful and use deception in order to make people think they are being peaceful.
There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.
TheReligionofPeace - Islam: Taqiyya and Lying
Qur'an (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.
Qur'an (3:28 ) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves."
Qur'an (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.
Qur'an (40:28 ) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.
Qur'an (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts" The context of this remark is marriage, which explains why Sharia allows spouses to lie to each other for the greater good.
Qur'an (66:2) - "Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths"
Qur'an (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means 'deceit'. If Allah is supremely deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)
Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.
Islam Permits Lying to Deceive Unbelievers and Bring World Domination! (MuslimFact)
al-Taqiyya:
deception; the islamic word for concealing or disguising one’s beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies.
It is impossible to understand Islam and Muslims by listening to their protestations against terror and their proclamations of patriotism for America. Usually, it is wise and fair to give people the benefit of the doubt but when it comes to national safety and the future of America, we had better look twice, even thrice at Muslim patriotism. Why? Because Islam permits lying! It is called “Al-taqiyya.” One Muslim said that Al-taqiyya means dissimulation then he expanded it to diplomacy but he should have gone further to deception. Now, some Muslims who do not follow the Koran are as faithful Americans as any of us, but the problem is, we cannot know.
Taqiyya (lying,deceiving,illusion) Islam's most important ideological wartool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHzFkky1qZI
There are passages in the Quran that instruct Muslims to be deceitful and use deception in order to make people think they are being peaceful.
There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.
TheReligionofPeace - Islam: Taqiyya and Lying
Qur'an (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.
Qur'an (3:28 ) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves."
Qur'an (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.
Qur'an (40:28 ) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.
Qur'an (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts" The context of this remark is marriage, which explains why Sharia allows spouses to lie to each other for the greater good.
Qur'an (66:2) - "Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths"
Qur'an (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means 'deceit'. If Allah is supremely deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)
Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.
Islam Permits Lying to Deceive Unbelievers and Bring World Domination! (MuslimFact)
al-Taqiyya:
deception; the islamic word for concealing or disguising one’s beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies.
It is impossible to understand Islam and Muslims by listening to their protestations against terror and their proclamations of patriotism for America. Usually, it is wise and fair to give people the benefit of the doubt but when it comes to national safety and the future of America, we had better look twice, even thrice at Muslim patriotism. Why? Because Islam permits lying! It is called “Al-taqiyya.” One Muslim said that Al-taqiyya means dissimulation then he expanded it to diplomacy but he should have gone further to deception. Now, some Muslims who do not follow the Koran are as faithful Americans as any of us, but the problem is, we cannot know.
Taqiyya (lying,deceiving,illusion) Islam's most important ideological wartool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHzFkky1qZI
This post was edited on 1/11/15 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:23 pm to CatFan81
This cat is a supporter of Hezbollah. Hezbollah has no problem denouncing ISIS.
But this Imam has a hard time denouncing Hezbollah. Baby steps, I guess. But I won't hold my breath.
But this Imam has a hard time denouncing Hezbollah. Baby steps, I guess. But I won't hold my breath.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:30 pm to CatFan81
tons of american leaders and politicians denounced torturing... people who judge on words and not actions are morons.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:33 pm to ehole
I wasn't judging them on their words, dipshit. I was simply posting that at least some of them are speaking out.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:37 pm to CatFan81
Detroit and Islamic leaders. That's like taking diarrhea and vomit and mixing it together and serving it as an appetizer in a 5 star restaurant. The restaurant being the USA.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:42 pm to deltaland
Listen. You fricks aren't supposed to be in this thread. 
Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:43 pm to CatFan81
Congrats on digging up a Muslim leader who opposes the 30,000 other Imams.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:49 pm to CatFan81
This just means they are starting to worry a little about someone shooting back.
A few drive episodes wouldn't upset me to much.
Put them on edge and maybe they slow the play of their radical brethren.
A few drive episodes wouldn't upset me to much.
Put them on edge and maybe they slow the play of their radical brethren.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:51 pm to CatFan81
They're frontin'.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:52 pm to diddydirtyAubie
This thread was supposed to bait Shafty. 
Posted on 1/11/15 at 5:53 pm to CatFan81
It's not the Muslims fault. The combination of overwhelming heat radiating from the sands of the desert and their turbans wrapped too tight, cutting off oxygen to the brain leads to hysteria and irrational behavior.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 6:14 pm to CatFan81
So, what are they going to do about their shitty religion and their horrendous body odor?
Oh, and before you answer, shut up catfan.
Oh, and before you answer, shut up catfan.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 6:23 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Posted on 1/11/15 at 7:10 pm to CatFan81
They just don't want any retaliation against them. Detroit is a hot bed of radical Islam and has been a target of FBI anti terrorist surveillance for years.
Nice words, but I wouldnt trust the sneaky bastards.
Nice words, but I wouldnt trust the sneaky bastards.
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