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Realistic Goals for our defense
Posted on 1/11/15 at 7:57 am
Posted on 1/11/15 at 7:57 am
Now that our defensive staff is nearly complete, what are your realistic goals of our defense and by what measurement?
Looking back at the last 5 year's defenses using Link to stats
Total Defense
2010 368.4 ypg - 24.1 ppg - 36.96% 3rd down conversion
2011 408 ypg - 28.9 ppg - 48.39% 3rd down
2012 420.5 ypg - 28.3 ppg - 40.83% 3rd down
2013 420.7 ypg - 24.7 ppg - 33% 3rd down
2014 64th with 398.8 ypg and 26.7 ppg (62nd) - 35.75% 3rd down
Looking at the stats compared to wins and losses, of course the biggest indicators were yards and points with the exception of 2013 which was just an anomaly of a season.
In losses, yards went up between 35 and 50% a game while points were nearly doubled per game in losses.
So what would be your realistic goals/expectations of our defense next year and even the year following? Would you like to see us close the gap between awful defensive performances (which seems to be tough to do with offenses the way they are now), just overall dropping all the stats down some more?
I would like to see us get back around 20-24 ppg next year and get to the 350 to 360 ypg. Both of these should easily be realistic given we were at 27 ppg last year with a lot of points given up in a few games.
Looking back at the last 5 year's defenses using Link to stats
Total Defense
2010 368.4 ypg - 24.1 ppg - 36.96% 3rd down conversion
2011 408 ypg - 28.9 ppg - 48.39% 3rd down
2012 420.5 ypg - 28.3 ppg - 40.83% 3rd down
2013 420.7 ypg - 24.7 ppg - 33% 3rd down
2014 64th with 398.8 ypg and 26.7 ppg (62nd) - 35.75% 3rd down
Looking at the stats compared to wins and losses, of course the biggest indicators were yards and points with the exception of 2013 which was just an anomaly of a season.
In losses, yards went up between 35 and 50% a game while points were nearly doubled per game in losses.
So what would be your realistic goals/expectations of our defense next year and even the year following? Would you like to see us close the gap between awful defensive performances (which seems to be tough to do with offenses the way they are now), just overall dropping all the stats down some more?
I would like to see us get back around 20-24 ppg next year and get to the 350 to 360 ypg. Both of these should easily be realistic given we were at 27 ppg last year with a lot of points given up in a few games.
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Posted on 1/11/15 at 8:16 am to Warfarer
I would like 300 ypg, 20 ppg, and a 20% 3rd down conversion success...that's on average, 1 in 5 3rd downs converted which would be huge!
Looking back, our defense had little trouble pushing teams to 3rd down, but it felt like nearly every one was converted. As a result, our def. began to look fatigued, and offenses capitalized.
Looking back, our defense had little trouble pushing teams to 3rd down, but it felt like nearly every one was converted. As a result, our def. began to look fatigued, and offenses capitalized.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 8:23 am to AUNashville
Hopefully we will be able to stop teams on 4th down.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 9:41 am to AUNashville
quote:way to aim low
and a 20% 3rd down conversion success...that's on average, 1 in 5 3rd downs converted which would be huge!
2011 Alabama held teams to a 24.5% conversation rate and you want 20%?
Posted on 1/11/15 at 10:09 am to Warfarer
I want to hold inferior OOC opponents to 3 or less points. Weak SEC teams to less than 10. Good SEC teams to less than 30.
Top 3 in redzone defense
Top 5 in pass defense
Top 3 in rush defense
Top 3 in redzone defense
Top 5 in pass defense
Top 3 in rush defense
Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:08 am to Warfarer
20 PPG and >400 YPG would have me in a continuous fap cycle.
Holding opponents under 200 rush yds would also be awesome.
Holding opponents under 200 rush yds would also be awesome.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 11:15 am to Warfarer
Hearing "After the play was over..." A LOT less would go a very long way.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 1:00 pm to Broadside Bob
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Hearing "After the play was over..." A LOT less would go a long way.
THIS. I feel like the senseless penalties kept a lot more drives alive than poor execution in 3rd down. If they can just instill some KSU-esque discipline, the 3rd down conversion will naturally drop IMO
This post was edited on 1/11/15 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 1/11/15 at 8:51 pm to SemperAuburn
Fwiw, Florida gave up 21 ppg in 2014 with guys like donte fowler and VH3... 200 ppg is ambitious given our talent level.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 9:04 pm to lowspark12
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Florida gave up 21 ppg in 2014 with guys like donte fowler and VH3
that had a lot to do with how bad their offense was too. We have run a control offense the last two seasons and have had really good results with TOP, we should be able to field a very competent defense that gives up the 20 ppg range, we just haven't yet.
Posted on 1/11/15 at 9:11 pm to lowspark12
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200 ppg is ambitious
Hell, even Ellis held teams below that
Posted on 1/11/15 at 9:20 pm to Lee County Tiger
.... ain't even gonna edit that screw up. 
Posted on 1/11/15 at 9:27 pm to lowspark12
Holding our rival to 43 points would be a start..
This post was edited on 1/11/15 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 1/11/15 at 9:52 pm to Warfarer
I would just like to see greater intensity and much better tackling. How many times did we have someone on the ball carrier in the Wisconsin game and still let them gain massive yards?
There was that one play that really killed me when we had two guys on someone on a third down behind the line of scrimmage and he still picked up four yards.
If we could get it near 20-24 points a game, that would be huge.
There was that one play that really killed me when we had two guys on someone on a third down behind the line of scrimmage and he still picked up four yards.
If we could get it near 20-24 points a game, that would be huge.
This post was edited on 1/11/15 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 1/12/15 at 12:49 am to lowspark12
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200 ppg is ambitious given our talent level.
It's funny because it feels so true.
FTR, I saw your second post, as well.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 7:14 am to lowspark12
quote:UF's defense gave up 18 ppg.
Fwiw, Florida gave up 21 ppg in 2014 with guys like donte fowler and VH3
You forget games like Missouri where Missouri's offense managed just 119 yards and 4 of their 5 TDs came off either special teams or defense.
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 7:14 am
Posted on 1/12/15 at 7:39 am to joeyb147
I want to see us stop third and long consistently. I think everything will follow after that improvement.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:30 am to Warfarer
Goals
1. Have an actual pass rush that will pressure the QB.
2. Tackle in space.
3. Cover somebody with a scheme that works.
4. Stop recruiting midget DB's.
1. Have an actual pass rush that will pressure the QB.
2. Tackle in space.
3. Cover somebody with a scheme that works.
4. Stop recruiting midget DB's.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:47 am to guschamp84
EJ and his staff weren't recruiting "midget DBs" at all... in fact they were concentrating on guys with length, like Bessent and Westry.... if anything, we're gonna go back to recruiting the smaller guys (Irvin the Texas commit is an example).
T-rob and muschamp are going away from the emphasis on length and concreting more on speed/quickness.
T-rob and muschamp are going away from the emphasis on length and concreting more on speed/quickness.
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 8:48 am
Posted on 1/12/15 at 8:49 am to lowspark12
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T-rob and muschamp are going away from the emphasis on length and concreting more on speed/quickness.
Whatever. No MORE Johnathan Mincy types.
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