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Senior “Stands His Ground” After Being Attacked By Unarmed Man In Texas
Posted on 1/8/15 at 7:30 am
Posted on 1/8/15 at 7:30 am
https://bearingarms.com/senior-stands-ground-attacked-unarmed-man-texas/
So, did this douche-bag get what he deserved or should the senior citizen be prosecuted by the local DA in Texas?
ETA: Bonus Questions
Will the national media pick-up this story?
When you were reading the story, before you got to the picture, were you thinking the thug POS was white or black?
What if this were a black thug rather than a white thug - how would this be handled?
Finally, Fredy Neal, the 65 year old senior who was at the Red Box and who shot Caldwell, was he a white senior man or a black senior man?
I've got some more coming on this story once I get some feedback from y'all.
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Michael Caldwell, 31, of Tyler, Texas, was being a jerk this past Saturday morning… with the emphasis on “was.”
Caldwell and his girlfriend were thrown out of an IHOP Saturday morning for creating a disturbance. Shortly afterward, he was the subject of a 911 call from a driver who said that he was worried that Caldwell was going to cause and accident as he was chasing cars on the Highway 64.
Before officers could arrive, Caldwell and his girlfriend then went into a nearby Walgreens and caused another disturbance. They were thrown out of that establishment as well.
After being tossed from Walgreens, but before police arrived, Caldwell then started a fight with Fredy Neal, 65, who was merely trying to use the Red Box (an automated DVD and video game rental kiosk) outside the pharmacy.
Neal told Caldwell to back off.
Caldwell attacked Neal.
Neal shot Caldwell, and Caldwell ceased to be a problem for anyone other than the morgue.
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Neal then pulled out a handgun and after several attempts to keep Caldwell from assaulting him, he shot him once in the chest.
Investigators have confirmed that Neal has a license to carry a concealed handgun. He has not been charged in the shooting. Neal was not held in custody by authorities based on the fact that he was cooperative with police, not a flight risk, and witnesses on the scene confirmed that Caldwell initiated the altercation, according to police.
Don Martin, public information officer for Tyler police department, said that Texas “stand your ground” laws may be raised in this case. “He felt that he was in fear for his life….” said Martin.
Tyler criminal defense attorney, Bobby Mims, said that Texas law can protect those who use deadly force when they reasonably fear for their life.
“Generally the law in Texas is that you may use deadly force in some instances,” said Mims. “You have to have a right to be there wherever you are; you have to be lawfully carrying your firearm; and you have to be in fear of your life, protection of others, or property.”
This would seem to be an open-and-shut case, so it’s doubtful that the media will be able to spin this into much of a controversy.
Caldwell acted erratically in numerous locations in front of a significant number of witnesses, went after Mr. Neal in front of witnesses, and then pressed his assault after Neal presented a weapon and declared his intention to defend himself.
Neal fired one measured, accurate shot, so it is unlikely that there is much of an argument for excessive force.
Based on the details of the case, this seems like a very legitimate case of armed self-defense against an unarmed attacker.
It will be interesting to see the results of the toxicology screen that they will do during Caldwell’s autopsy.
What do you think they’ll find?
So, did this douche-bag get what he deserved or should the senior citizen be prosecuted by the local DA in Texas?
ETA: Bonus Questions
Will the national media pick-up this story?
When you were reading the story, before you got to the picture, were you thinking the thug POS was white or black?
What if this were a black thug rather than a white thug - how would this be handled?
Finally, Fredy Neal, the 65 year old senior who was at the Red Box and who shot Caldwell, was he a white senior man or a black senior man?
I've got some more coming on this story once I get some feedback from y'all.
This post was edited on 1/8/15 at 7:39 am
Posted on 1/8/15 at 7:35 am to scrooster
The good Rev. Sharpton doesn't care so it won't even be a blip on the radar.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 7:36 am to scrooster
It's Texas. He'll be fine.
Now if it was New York, not so much...
Now if it was New York, not so much...
Posted on 1/8/15 at 7:36 am to scrooster
The old man did right as far as I'm concerned. The Texas media will spin it for gun control just because and I'm betting on either meth or opiates
Edit for last ?
No it's white on white crime
Edit for last ?
No it's white on white crime
This post was edited on 1/8/15 at 7:39 am
Posted on 1/8/15 at 7:39 am to scrooster
He absolutely got what he deserved. I hope he got it before spawning a bunch of mini doppelgangers, but somehow I think that is just wishful thinking.
I don't know why people still screw with old people in the south. Don't they know the old timers are packing? Do they never watch the old kung fu flicks where the crippled old guy is the baddest mofo in the movie?
I don't know why people still screw with old people in the south. Don't they know the old timers are packing? Do they never watch the old kung fu flicks where the crippled old guy is the baddest mofo in the movie?
Posted on 1/8/15 at 7:41 am to scrooster
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What if this were a black thug rather than a white thug - how would this be handled?
You're using the word "thug" wrong.
White people have been informed by black people that it is just a replacement for another word.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 7:51 am to scrooster
Imagine if the dude who got shot was black. This would be all over the news for months.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 8:05 am to scrooster
white on white crime in texas. Nobody will give a shite.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 9:49 am to Agforlife
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The old man did right as far as I'm concerned.
65 is not an old man!
Posted on 1/8/15 at 9:51 am to scrooster
Whites killing whites... meh.
Fredy... wait just a second... is that Hispanic?
Still meh.
Fredy... wait just a second... is that Hispanic?
Still meh.
This post was edited on 1/8/15 at 10:57 am
Posted on 1/8/15 at 9:54 am to DynastyDawg
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White people have been informed by black people that it is just a replacement for another word.
Well, it's pretty damn close for some
I don't care, though.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 10:05 am to scrooster
Thanks, Mr. Neal, for thinning the herd with one well-placed, and totally justified, shot.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 10:14 am to TbirdSpur2010
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Well, it's pretty damn close for some
Yeah, for some, but I use it interchangeably with POS or other phrases like that.
I guess that's just one of those things that rubs me wrong when I hear it. Especially when I use it and get accused of meaning the other, which has happened multiple times.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 10:48 am to scrooster
If you're gonna be stupid, you'd better be tough.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 4:05 pm to scrooster
One shot?! That's some good effect on target.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 4:15 pm to scrooster
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Congrats to the old man for defending himself. I think you'll be hard pressed to find someone who won't agree that the old man shouldn't be charged.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 4:26 pm to scrooster
I happy to say that even if we are looking at a black shooter, no one here will give a damn.
You have one idiot, who happens to be white, assaulting another individual.
I and the people in my circle would pat the shooter on that back, hope his mind isn't too fricked from the incident, and tell him he did the right thing.
You have one idiot, who happens to be white, assaulting another individual.
I and the people in my circle would pat the shooter on that back, hope his mind isn't too fricked from the incident, and tell him he did the right thing.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 4:30 pm to BluegrassBelle
No doubt. I've been in the minority condemning a lot of these "stand your ground and/or self defense" shootings, but it reads like this guy showed some restraint before pulling the trigger. The "victim" had a chance to flee and instead tried to escilate. He won the prize he deserved.
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