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Now that other conferences have caught up, what do we do?
Posted on 1/2/15 at 9:52 am
Posted on 1/2/15 at 9:52 am
SEC teams won't be given the usual bump next preseason. Are the days of dominance in the past? Help!!
Posted on 1/2/15 at 9:54 am to AHM21
Don't expect any of the other teams in the conf. to lend a hand...
Posted on 1/2/15 at 9:54 am to AHM21
What comes around goes around my son. There will be changes in the SEC mentality starting with the superiority complex, then the SEC will be just fine.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 9:54 am to AHM21
They haven't caught up in recruiting, so we've still got that over them.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 9:55 am to AHM21
weren't you guys leaving to start your own conference?
what do you mean "WE"?
Posted on 1/2/15 at 9:58 am to AHM21
The common theme in the losses was that our defenses were all exposed. We have to go back to the formula that worked in previous years. More agressive, attacking D. We were all playing to much read and react D.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:03 am to AHM21
More efficient, consistent offense that can score 50 every game.(will require a true passing QB with some elusive qualities) DBs who can defend the pass (and are taught proper technique) and quick, strong linemen who can stop the run inside and defend the perimeter. I think the days of the huge 400 lb noseguard are over except in goal line or short yardage situations.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:05 am to dallasga6
SEC had a GREAT run.
Jon Solomon ?@JonSolomonCBS 1st time since 2008 season no Alabama or Auburn in national title game; 1st time since 2005 (Texas vs. USC) no SEC
Jon Solomon ?@JonSolomonCBS 1st time since 2008 season no Alabama or Auburn in national title game; 1st time since 2005 (Texas vs. USC) no SEC
Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:08 am to dallasga6
Congrats on the JCPenney's Bowl. My bad.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:08 am to AHM21
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Now that other conferences have caught up
Hell of a conclusion to come to just because SEC didn't do too well in a bunch of meaningless bowl games, except Bama's of course.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:10 am to GregAl
The high school talent still exists in the southeast and many kids will want to play here. The overall QB play in the conference was due to catch up to many teams this season and it did. There may be a few programs around the country who can compete annually but there are no other conferences as deep.
The teams don't need to make knee jerk changes as most will be just fine. Major changes do need to be made in the SEC HQ. Move the HQ and hire officials who are devoted to promoting the entire conference instead of their home state.
Play a nine game conference schedule and get rid of the foolish permanent opponent "tradition" rule. Rotate around versus the other division to make the entire conference stronger.
The teams don't need to make knee jerk changes as most will be just fine. Major changes do need to be made in the SEC HQ. Move the HQ and hire officials who are devoted to promoting the entire conference instead of their home state.
Play a nine game conference schedule and get rid of the foolish permanent opponent "tradition" rule. Rotate around versus the other division to make the entire conference stronger.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:10 am to AHM21
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Are the days of dominance in the past? Help!!
No, Bama can get rid of those fat arse LBs and quit letting Kiffin call stupid shite on 3rd and 3 and yall would be just fine.
AU is close. The Miss schools have peeked. The Ags will improve. LSU can do it defensively probably, but if we don't improve offensively by a large margin, we will be out of it next year too.
But AU and Bama are in great shape.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:11 am to Katy Tiger
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The common theme in the losses was that our defenses were all exposed. We have to go back to the formula that worked in previous years. More agressive, attacking D. We were all playing to much read and react D.
The problem is that the rules that have changed favor Offense, with the targeting rule, you can't touch the QB, and etc. that defensive teams have had to dial it down from being so aggressive. The problem is that it's not going to change back
Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:12 am to AHM21
Conferences as a whole haven't caught up. The elite teams in the power 5 have always competed.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:19 am to arcalades
quote:You may be wrong. The other schools in Power 5 conferences are hiring outstanding recruiters, I am not a chicken little. I will say this thought, what Urban can do with the pick of the litter from the NE...and what he can do with a third string QB. Wow.
They haven't caught up in recruiting, so we've still got that over them.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:23 am to tigerfoot
Urban's recruiting was bolstered by the lack of any good programs in the B1G. The Harbough hire will likely change that.
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Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:34 am to tigerfoot
An outsider's opinion:
- I have argued the past couple of years that coaching attrition in the SEC has caused an overall dip in performance. It wasn't that long ago that the SEC had Saban, Meyer, Petrino, Spurrier, Richt, and Miles stalking the sidelines (five national title-winning coaches and another very gifted coach). Strong, Mullen, Muschamp, Fisher, Pelini, Malzahn, Smart, McElwain, and others were in the assistant ranks. I don't think the current coaching talent is quite up to what it was from 2006 - 2012. Other conferences are starting to lay down big money to match the SEC. The B1G has seriously upgraded its coaching talent across the board over the last few years, and Meyer/Harbaugh/Dantonio are as good a top 3 as anywhere in the country.
- QB play has been pretty bad this year across the board in the conference
- I no longer see vaunted front sevens that were the hallmark of the great SEC teams from 2006 - 2012 that just chewed you up and spit you out. The big 5 from the SEC West (Alabama/Auburn/MSU/Ole Miss/LSU) gave up an average of 315 yards rushing per game in their bowl games this year. That jumped out to me - that would have never happened three or four years ago.
- I do think some of the oversigning limits that went into effect in 2011 are starting to bear fruit a bit
The SEC is still the best conference, I think, but the PAC 12 is a damn close second, and the Big 12 is not far behind them. I moved from the South to the West coast in 2009 and remember being a little surprised by how good the level of play is out there and how seriously they took the sport. I thought they were getting to be comparable in 2012 or 2013, and they definitely are (especially the PAC 12 South) right now.
- I have argued the past couple of years that coaching attrition in the SEC has caused an overall dip in performance. It wasn't that long ago that the SEC had Saban, Meyer, Petrino, Spurrier, Richt, and Miles stalking the sidelines (five national title-winning coaches and another very gifted coach). Strong, Mullen, Muschamp, Fisher, Pelini, Malzahn, Smart, McElwain, and others were in the assistant ranks. I don't think the current coaching talent is quite up to what it was from 2006 - 2012. Other conferences are starting to lay down big money to match the SEC. The B1G has seriously upgraded its coaching talent across the board over the last few years, and Meyer/Harbaugh/Dantonio are as good a top 3 as anywhere in the country.
- QB play has been pretty bad this year across the board in the conference
- I no longer see vaunted front sevens that were the hallmark of the great SEC teams from 2006 - 2012 that just chewed you up and spit you out. The big 5 from the SEC West (Alabama/Auburn/MSU/Ole Miss/LSU) gave up an average of 315 yards rushing per game in their bowl games this year. That jumped out to me - that would have never happened three or four years ago.
- I do think some of the oversigning limits that went into effect in 2011 are starting to bear fruit a bit
The SEC is still the best conference, I think, but the PAC 12 is a damn close second, and the Big 12 is not far behind them. I moved from the South to the West coast in 2009 and remember being a little surprised by how good the level of play is out there and how seriously they took the sport. I thought they were getting to be comparable in 2012 or 2013, and they definitely are (especially the PAC 12 South) right now.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:35 am to AHM21
We stop caring and devoting so much time and energy to college football. There are lots of other great things in the world.
Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:39 am to AHM21
quote:Go to church tomorrow if you prefer.
Now that other conferences have caught up, what do we do?
Go to work Monday.
Watch college basketball.
Profit.
Who cares???
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