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re: Michigan job > Florida job
Posted on 12/29/14 at 1:53 am to VerlanderBEAST
Posted on 12/29/14 at 1:53 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Did you just start watching college football 5 years ago? Their down period is no better or worse than any of the other elites etc. You probably think Nebraska just became good in the 90's. Nebraska has been a power since the 20's and 30's
If anything the team out of place is Texas as they have never experienced the dynasty run the others have.
Nebraska wasnt a powerhouse until Devaney came along, they were a good program but nowhere close to Oklahoma. In fact the conference was once called Oklahoma and the seven dwarfs.
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 2:03 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Their down period is no better or worse than any of the other elites etc.
You probably think it's a coincidence that Penn State, Michigan and Nebraska are all down at the same time.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 2:22 am to VerlanderBEAST
Verlander is a moron who doesn't understand demographic trends: Michigan has one half of one national title in the last 50 years, three teams from Florida have more titles than that since 1990.
Big 10 football outside of perhaps Ohio is dead along with ND football as consistent national powers- tell you what I'll take the Big 6 (really 5 now) and give you every single team in America North of the Mason Dixon and East of the Rockies regardless of conference over the next two decades.
Big 10 football outside of perhaps Ohio is dead along with ND football as consistent national powers- tell you what I'll take the Big 6 (really 5 now) and give you every single team in America North of the Mason Dixon and East of the Rockies regardless of conference over the next two decades.
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 2:26 am
Posted on 12/29/14 at 2:58 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Did you just start watching college football 5 years ago? Their down period is no better or worse than any of the other elites etc. You probably think Nebraska just became good in the 90's. Nebraska has been a power since the 20's and 30's If anything the team out of place is Texas as they have never experienced the dynasty run the others have.
He's right though. Nebraska's days of dominance are over. This isn't about the past. Moving forward Nebraska simply won't be able to recruit at a level to stay at a top level constantly. They may jump up and have a strong year occasionally, but not sustained success like in the past.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:11 am to TigerBornTigerBred
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Nebraska wasnt a powerhouse until Devaney came along, they were a good program but nowhere close to Oklahoma. In fact the conference was once called Oklahoma and the seven dwarfs.
Nebraska was powerhouse decades before Devaney. The Big 8 was formed in 1928 and Nebraska won like 8 of the first 10 conference championships quote:
He's right though. Nebraska's days of dominance are over. This isn't about the past. Moving forward Nebraska simply won't be able to recruit at a level to stay at a top level constantly. They may jump up and have a strong year occasionally, but not sustained success like in the past.
Why? What has suddenly changed? Obviously the people with in the sport disagrees considering they just got a coach who turned down Alabama and USC twice.
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Verlander is a moron who doesn't understand demographic trends: Michigan has one half of one national title in the last 50 years, three teams from Florida have more titles than that since 1990.
Big 10 football outside of perhaps Ohio is dead along with ND football as consistent national powers- tell you what I'll take the Big 6 (really 5 now) and give you every single team in America North of the Mason Dixon and East of the Rockies regardless of conference over the next two decades.
National titles are subjective.
Yes I do understand demographic trends that is in fact that is my entire point. Demographics have changed several times over the past century+ yet Michigan(along with the 7 other elites) has continued to be a power.
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 3:21 am
Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:26 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Why? What has suddenly changed? Obviously the people with in the sport disagrees considering they just got a coach who turned down Alabama and USC twice.
Go look at the top recruits to come out of the state of Nebraska. Last year the four best were only 3 star players and the top player went to Stanford. That left the other 3 players for Nebraska. All the other top players in Nebraska went to division 2 schools.
So, Nebraska got 3 spots filled with in state players. That leaves 23/24 spots you have to fill with players out of state, many of whom live in the south and don't wanna go to cold, middle of nowhere Nebraska. I'm just saying it's a tall order
Compare that to Tennessee(which most say has a lack of talent in state)
Tennessee produced 2 five star,7 four star and 21 three star prospects.
28 players from Tennessee ended up at Division 1 programs.
Tennessee landed 9 of the top 11 prospects.
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 3:38 am
Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:01 am to VerlanderBEAST
"These trends suggest that the South will expand its dominance as the nation’s most populous region. In the 1950s, the South, the Northeast and the Midwest each had about the same number of people. Today the South is almost as populous as the Northeast and the Midwest combined."
Forbes
Forbes
Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:02 am to BigOrangeBri
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Go look at the top recruits to come out of the state of Nebraska. Last year the four best were only 3 star players and the top player went to Stanford. That left the other 3 players for Nebraska. All the other top players in Nebraska went to division 2 schools.
So, Nebraska got 3 spots filled with in state players. That leaves 23/24 spots you have to fill with players out of state, many of whom live in the south and don't wanna go to cold, middle of nowhere Nebraska. I'm just saying it's a tall order
Not any taller than it has ever been. When Nebraska was good they were producing loads of great lineman/fullbacks and every once in a while a superstar skill position like Eric Crouch, Johnny Rodgers or Ahman Green. Pretty sure almost none were highly rated recruits.
Also when has Nebraska ever needed to recruit the south?
Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:14 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Also when has Nebraska ever needed to recruit the south?
They may not have needed to in the past, but if they wanna stay in the race they'll have to moving forward. It's where a ton of top tier players are.
I'm not saying they can't be good. They just won't be a top ten type program.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 10:55 am to NGATiger
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both > Bama
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 10:56 am
Posted on 12/29/14 at 11:01 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Did you just start watching college football 5 years ago? Their down period is no better or worse than any of the other elites etc. You probably think Nebraska just became good in the 90's. Nebraska has been a power since the 20's and 30's If anything the team out of place is Texas as they have never experienced the dynasty run the others have.
Cute. You think Nebraska's decline is only 5 years old.
Sorry, Nebraska is a step below the first 7 on your list, historically, and their future doesn't look particularly bright. Recruiting loads of gap-toothed farmer boys to stiffen up the line is no longer a viable technique in modern CFB, and they lack the attraction -- geographically and facilities-wise -- of most top programs nowadays.
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 11:04 am
Posted on 12/29/14 at 12:28 pm to BigOrangeBri
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Michigan job > Florida job "These trends suggest that the South will expand its dominance as the nation’s most populous region. In the 1950s, the South, the Northeast and the Midwest each had about the same number of people. Today the South is almost as populous as the Northeast and the Midwest combined." Forbes
This info is why the Clay Travis article is wrong
Posted on 12/29/14 at 12:35 pm to LarrytheGolfer
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:14 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Nebraska was powerhouse decades before Devaney. The Big 8 was formed in 1928 and Nebraska won like 8 of the first 10 conference championships
They werent a powerhouse.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:53 pm to VerlanderBEAST
He's a Michigan alumni. What else do you expect? The B1G conference plain fricking sucks. Keep adding real value like Maryland & Rutgers.
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