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re: will this year's national champ be most accomplished ever?
Posted on 12/27/14 at 8:30 am to proudertider
Posted on 12/27/14 at 8:30 am to proudertider
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Posted on 12/27/14 at 8:59 am to VagueMessage
Did any team have more of a bullseye on them than F$U this year?
Posted on 12/27/14 at 9:00 am to The Quiet One
Here is something to chew on..
If Bama wins it this year, in 3 more games, they still will not have beaten as many top 20 teams as 1983 AU. Same number of top 10 teams. Lower winning percentage of opponents overall though.
So short answer, they will be close to equalling the most accomplished national champion ever and will have the same 1 loss record as 1983 AU.
If Bama wins it this year, in 3 more games, they still will not have beaten as many top 20 teams as 1983 AU. Same number of top 10 teams. Lower winning percentage of opponents overall though.
So short answer, they will be close to equalling the most accomplished national champion ever and will have the same 1 loss record as 1983 AU.
Posted on 12/27/14 at 9:01 am to genro
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09 Bama had one of the highest margins of victory ever Undefeated Conference champ Record number of All-Americans Heisman winner Beat the previous FOUR national champions, with 9 points being the closest margin in any of those games.
2009 Bama is also the only team to ever defeat two 13-win teams enroute to a 14-0 season (Gators and 'Horns).
Posted on 12/27/14 at 9:54 am to proudertider
No , only in the minds of Bammers! 
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:06 am to Spread
Btw, if Bama does win it all, they will have beaten 4 top 20 teams in a row. Pretty good, but the all time record is 5 consecutive wins against top 20 teams, something only 1 team in NCAA history has ever accomplished.
1983 AU of course and 4 of those 5 were top ten teams (Bama was the only one that wasn't top ten, but were top 20).
1983 is probably the gold standard of comparing accomplishments for a National Champion. Not saying they are the best team in NCAA history, but they may be the most accomplished team in college history.
1983 AU of course and 4 of those 5 were top ten teams (Bama was the only one that wasn't top ten, but were top 20).
1983 is probably the gold standard of comparing accomplishments for a National Champion. Not saying they are the best team in NCAA history, but they may be the most accomplished team in college history.
This post was edited on 12/27/14 at 10:11 am
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:11 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
Down year because all 4 final teams were outplayed more than once this year and all have several weaknesses. That being said- the game is still about winning - there just aren't any teams that anybody is scared of- there are probably 20 teams that feel they are just as good as the top 4. In years past, that has not been the cases.
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:19 am to genro
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Beat the previous FOUR national champions, with 9 points being the closest margin in any of those games.
What does that have to do with anything...we nearly lost to a mediocre ut team at home
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:30 am to The Quiet One
1995 Nebraska's cumulative opponent record is unimpressive. 2011 LSU wins the battle because their opponents lost fewer games than 2009 and 2014 Alabama's. 2011 LSU's victories over Oregon, West Virginia, Alabama, and Arkansas would beat Alabama's 4 best victories this season should Alabama win the playoffs.
2011 West Virginia >>> 2014 West Virginia
2011 Arkansas > 2014 Arkansas
2011 Alabama >>> 2014 LSU and 2011 Alabama > 2014 Alabama
Oregon is the only team that arguably may be better this season than in 2011.
2011 West Virginia >>> 2014 West Virginia
2011 Arkansas > 2014 Arkansas
2011 Alabama >>> 2014 LSU and 2011 Alabama > 2014 Alabama
Oregon is the only team that arguably may be better this season than in 2011.
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:32 am to FairhopeTider
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I think we all agree this is a bit of a down year across the board.
Why do people keep saying this? What does an "up" year of college football look like?
I don't get this either. I think there are more really good teams this year than there has been in a looong time.
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:34 am to The Quiet One
Would love to see a break down of Auburn 2004 or 1983 
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:36 am to FairhopeTider
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Why do people keep saying this? What does an "up" year of college football look like?
There have been a plethora of upsets and underachieving teams this season just like in 2007. There was much more parity and no "great" teams. Ohio State had a terrible loss. Alabama had some close calls, albeit against SEC competition. Oregon lost at home to a team that lucked its way into the south division title. Florida State isn't down; they just are a middle of the pack team that scraped by an unremarkable schedule.
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:36 am to Cumulonimbus
It's the 98 Vols.
Last team to win back to back SEC titles
Beat 4 teams in BCS top 15 standings
Beat 6 ranked teams
Beat 4 teams in top 10
Last team to win back to back SEC titles
Beat 4 teams in BCS top 15 standings
Beat 6 ranked teams
Beat 4 teams in top 10
This post was edited on 12/27/14 at 10:39 am
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:37 am to proudertider
no
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:40 am to Cumulonimbus
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Florida State isn't down; they just are a middle of the pack team that scraped by an unremarkable schedule.
a) Florida State is the most talented team in the country
b) FSU beat 3 ranked teams; Bama beat 4 (such a "remarkable" difference)
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:53 am to ChexMix
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Would love to see a break down of Auburn 2004 or 1983
1983 Auburn:
11-1 record
Played 9 bowl teams
Played 6 ranked teams (lost one)
Defeated 4 Top 10 teams
Defeated 2 Top 5 teams
Defeated 2 10+ win teams
Cumulative opp record: 92-48
2004 Auburn:
13-0 record
Played 5 bowl teams
Played 5 ranked teams
Defeated 4 Top 10 teams
Defeated 4 10+ win teams
Cumulative opp record: 83-69
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:59 am to The Quiet One
quote:Thank you
The Quiet One
Posted on 12/27/14 at 11:02 am to The Quiet One
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Played 12 bowl teams
I would imagine this would be a NCAA record?
Posted on 12/27/14 at 11:41 am to genro
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09 Bama had one of the highest margins of victory ever
this is 100% false
Posted on 12/27/14 at 12:39 pm to 632627
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09 Bama had one of the highest margins of victory ever
this is 100% false
This website says their average margin was 18.5. There were a few teams over 30, including 2005 Texas and FSU last year.
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