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Can we chill on on the 247/Texags/Rivals Talk?
Posted on 12/25/14 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 12/25/14 at 7:39 pm
I feel like is as much discussion about those boards and mods as there is on actual Aggie talk. We get it. Some of you don't like X posters and mods at other places. I've been guilty of it too, but lately it has been more than over the top.
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Posted on 12/25/14 at 7:43 pm to Farmer1906
Think of it as the Trey Parker factor. As long as there are stupid people doing stupid things...
Posted on 12/25/14 at 11:49 pm to Farmer1906
Posted on 12/26/14 at 1:04 am to Farmer1906
Imma continue to post here and on TexAgs, just trying to be the best teammate I can be, man. And I'm just going to continue to do that.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 1:29 am to Farmer1906
Honestly I like the talk because it is all something we can agree on.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:02 am to cardboardboxer
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Honestly I like the talk because it is all something we can agree on.
Actually no it isn't.
I don't really mind the new threads talking about other boards but what I get very annoyed by is the thread derailment. It's very annoying when someone brings up something that was reported by X and then the next 15 posts are about how X is an oversensitive jerk or how X follows recruits into bathrooms. Some folks like Texags. Some folks like 247. Some folks hate them both and some like them both.
I really like tArk but the constant need to bash other sites is easily my least favorite part of this board. It has chased away some posters that otherwise would have been quality contributors because believe it or not some people actually appreciate guys like Liucci. Most of you don't remember what the world of the internet was like prior to Texags. It's not just that some people feel the need to bash Liucci, it is that they feel the need to make it as if you don't bash him then you are a mindless robot.
Each site has value, just in different ways. Of course I like to read conservative and liberal political sites as well even though I am more libertarian.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:16 am to aggressor
I don't think it's as bad as that, I think this board is almost always civil and fun to read, but I can understand your point about thread derailment. Fact of the matter is that people like drama, and when we have multiple sites with different main personalities that frequently have different takes then that's going to be interesting to some people
Posted on 12/26/14 at 10:17 am to aggressor
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Most of you don't remember what the world of the internet was like prior to Texags.
I do. Heck I don't mind the Looch, but the fact is if he didn't exist someone else would fill the niche. Every major fan base has a Looch, for better or for worse. And I think there isn't some hive mind here that you have to hate Looch or Hamm. Obviously some posters here support them or we wouldn't have as much info.
Another element to this, and is much more the group think element, is that we are "liberal" around these parts about our Texas A&M ness. I don't mean anything political, just that the discussions here focus on what A&M is perceived to be, not just the maroon tinted world of many Aggies. The things we let slide here (or own up to completely) like we are gay, jizz jars, Texas isn't a rival anymore, etc. would drive a lot of our tradional fan base - the "Even if we go 1-11 as long as the win is against tu with good Ags I am happy" people- off of a cliff. Those people do just fine in Texags M&W though.
Heck I know some Aggies that would want to kick my arse for the way I represent Aggies on the Rant. And they can all go suck it, as a fan base we have a stick up our arse far too often. To survive here, in corndogland, you need thicker skin and less baseless pride than anywhere else in internet that Aggies roam.
I don't like derailed discussions either, and I do think the bashing goes over the top. With that said I like the negativity sometimes, as it is a breath of fresh air for a fan base that tries to ignore bad thing exist like we live in some 80's sitcom.
This post was edited on 12/26/14 at 10:45 am
Posted on 12/26/14 at 10:45 am to cardboardboxer
quote:More directly, this is a place you can frankly discuss TA/247 without getting dogpiled (and probably banned) by partisans from either side. I'm not saying they're useless all the time. They're not. But there will be times when they are, like during this DC search, and people don't like to hear that. It turns into a grown-up version of console wars where you rationalize and get tribal about that thing you committed money to.
Another element to this, and is much more the group think element, is that we are "liberal" around these parts about our Texas A&M ness. I don't mean anything political, just that the discussions here focus on what A&M is perceived to be, not just the maroon tinted world of many Aggies.
I don't take any side on TA/247 and neither of them are bad people or necessarily always wrong. You just have to know their bad habits. Hamm has a hair-trigger for posting based on extremely thin sources, which gets him scoops but often burns him (for instance, when he linked our players to that robbery). Liucci is more careful but also 100% wedded to the program and does not question or verify "official" leaks even when such things are often misdirection and sometimes (literally) unbelievable.
I like tAggyArk because people can speak their minds anywhere along the spectrum of pumping to melting at any given time. That probably because it's an LSU board so staff has no dog in the fight.
This post was edited on 12/26/14 at 10:55 am
Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:09 am to Iosh
You know that both of them lurk on this board and hate the fact that they can't censor it.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:35 am to Iosh
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Hamm has a hair-trigger for posting based on extremely thin sources, which gets him scoops but often burns him (for instance, when he linked our players to that robbery). Liucci is more careful but also 100% wedded to the program and does not question or verify "official" leaks even when such things are often misdirection and sometimes (literally) unbelievable.
Hamm answers to higher ups who want to see results. A big part of which is being first (as evidenced by his annoying habit of shouting as much on nearly every topic he tweets about) As the owner/boss, Looch has the luxury of breaking something in his time. I fall in the "distaste for both" camp, and I have always liked the freedom to laugh at their expense here with them not being able to do a single thing about it.
em bothPosted on 12/26/14 at 1:50 pm to cardboardboxer
I have no issue at all with the objective talk here, nor do I have an issue with folks going along with the crap they joke about with Ags (I actually think the way we collectively kind of beat them to the punch on Aggie jokes is perfect by talking about filling jars, being gay, etc.) There is some self loathing/BAS but that goes on with any group of Aggies who get together.
A level of negativity and certainly objectivity is a good thing. It's annoying for instance when folks go out out of their way to spin some positive about Malik going to Texas and suddenly acting like he is a crap recruit who will suck at life. Doesn't mean we all need to cry in our beer or that the world is ending but there is no doubt he is a great prospect and would have been a great addition to our class.
I do think that threads here get into bash tests of Texags on occasion that are annoying. Lots of folks seem to be proud of how they were banned there as though it is a rite of passage or something. It's just a site with stricter rules that is focused more toward Old Ags that don't read a lot of other message boards so that is why they come down hard on the cursing and negativity. Loach is too sensitive but in the end the site still puts out an insane amount of quality content.
I like the content here quite a bit and how posters don't take themselves too seriously. It is not for the casual internet lurker. I laugh a lot more on tRant than I ever do on Texags, it's more fun. It also is nice as a pooling source of information that isn't just from one perspective. That's what is best about it.
A level of negativity and certainly objectivity is a good thing. It's annoying for instance when folks go out out of their way to spin some positive about Malik going to Texas and suddenly acting like he is a crap recruit who will suck at life. Doesn't mean we all need to cry in our beer or that the world is ending but there is no doubt he is a great prospect and would have been a great addition to our class.
I do think that threads here get into bash tests of Texags on occasion that are annoying. Lots of folks seem to be proud of how they were banned there as though it is a rite of passage or something. It's just a site with stricter rules that is focused more toward Old Ags that don't read a lot of other message boards so that is why they come down hard on the cursing and negativity. Loach is too sensitive but in the end the site still puts out an insane amount of quality content.
I like the content here quite a bit and how posters don't take themselves too seriously. It is not for the casual internet lurker. I laugh a lot more on tRant than I ever do on Texags, it's more fun. It also is nice as a pooling source of information that isn't just from one perspective. That's what is best about it.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 10:32 pm to aggressor
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I like the content here quite a bit and how posters don't take themselves too seriously. It is not for the casual internet lurker. I laugh a lot more on tRant than I ever do on Texags, it's more fun. It also is nice as a pooling source of information that isn't just from one perspective. That's what is best about it.
I agree, and hopefully we can keep it that way for a long while
That's why WCA and I continue to try and make censorship/bans a last resort. Differing opinions aren't a bad thing, and the more people feel free to speak their minds on here without vicious personal attacks, the better.
I don't care if you love or hate TA/247/Rivals. They all have a purpose and a niche that they serve. The Ark should be more like the MSC flag room. A place we can just shoot the shite as long as no one bangs on the proverbial piano too loudly.
Personally, I have stars on TA (ok, I have A star, that is
), and I've had the opportunity to meet face to face with Hamm this year and speak at great lengths. I respect them for what they are and they'll continue to do their respective thing, and so will aggyark.com 
This post was edited on 12/26/14 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 12/27/14 at 12:57 am to TbirdSpur2010
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I've had the opportunity to meet face to face with Hamm this year and speak at great lengths.
Was this at an on-campus or off-campus restroom?
Posted on 12/27/14 at 1:27 am to greenbastard
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off-campus restroom?
A swanky off-campus one, of course. We kept it classy
J/k, it was at the Fort Worth Stockyards before the Arky game. Was barhopping with my brother and his gf and ended up conversing for awhile with him at one of 'em. Mostly ended up laughing at the pettiness among the sites, tbh
Posted on 12/27/14 at 7:49 am to TbirdSpur2010
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Mostly ended up laughing at the pettiness among the sites, tbh
I could see that. Thank you for the story.
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