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re: Moving On- Who is UGA's Next OC?

Posted on 12/23/14 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by history88
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 12/23/14 at 12:03 pm to
I am trying to tell yall Napier would make a great fit but we must pay the man!!!!
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/23/14 at 12:09 pm to
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Moving On- Who is UGA's Next OC?
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Acknowledging that it's a problem higher up than Richt is the part that sucks the most

I'll ask again....

How did the new trendy talking-point about McGarity being cheap cause the fumbles or the squib kick against Tech?.... or cause one of the shittiest Defensive performances in history against a terrible Florida team?.... or cause us to lay another Defensive egg against a garbage USCe team?

Please explain how higher salaries or indoor practice facilities or anything else regurgitated within the talking-point caused a team capable of playing the way it did against Clemson or miZzzouri or arkansas for example to show up and play like it did in the three losses.


DOesn't make any sense to me.


NOt to mention the fact that a team you people seem to envy like Auburn with the "Championship or bust" "money-is-no-object" mentality had 4 losses this season. ONe of them to us supposed "cheapskates".........



First, McGarity didn't create the "cheap" culture at UGA. This has been around for a long time. I guess he cut his teeth around Dooley who relished in this MO, though it is pretty clear that this culture runs deeper than Dooley. Frankly, when McGarity came, I felt like this old culture would end as he certainly saw UF spend some money... especially on Football and Basketball. One could say he has increased our spending, but we are playing catch up at the very least.
This does not exonerate poor coaching and coaching decisions during and bfore games.
The same Alabama team that lost to Ole Miss drubbed just about everyone else. Teams are going to lose and guys are gonna make mistakes and you will need some fortune and good bounces to win in football.
You can ask a question as to what did McGarity do to lose those games and I think it is valid.
I can ask if we would have beaten USCe this year if we hadn't kicked off or suspended so many talented offensive and defensive players due to recreational drug use that is common among that age group and done so in a way that our peers have not... you can say Bobo should have run it down there and I can say, we should have had more upperclassman and quality depth on defense...
You can say it was the defense shitting the bed that lost the UF game and I can say that if we had the best RB in the game on our team, would we have been able to score more and put the game more on the shoulders of their freshman QB?
I guess the biggest question is... what will change if we get a new HC? Will we have the best facilites? Will we put togehter a staff that can recruit and coach? Will we quit over policing ourselves and find a better way?
Is the root cause of our woes Richt?

Our last 3 HCs were RB coach at UGA, Head Coach of a 1AA team and OC at FSU.
We completely stayed out of the frey of big assistant packages until it got to the point that ADs were getting pressure.

...and keep in mind. Our University is comfortable telling the world that they give the HC a budget for assistants and that's that... Agents know, our competition knows, and our people know.

If you beleive the talk, it appears Pruitt has attemtped to turn the place upside down. How a guy could come in here and do that is beyond me. Maybe that was the final straw for Bobo. It seems that some changes are being made, but I wonder if they will be a true departure from what we are... I hope so... I dont care who coaches us and who our AD is... I just don't want us to act like we are the moral class of the SEC whilst kicking off and suspending players all the time for all kinds of publicized misdeeds while at the same time, always seeming to come up just a tad short on the field.

At least we are only 60 miles from the most prolific basketball recruiting grounds in the USA and we built a basketball support staff and facilities to take advantage of that....
Posted by history88
Member since Mar 2014
312 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 12:17 pm to
I am trying to tell yall Napier would make a great fit but we must pay the man!!!!
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
6994 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 1:22 pm to
McGarity is cheap in regards to coaches pay but he shelled out over $40,000 for a lawyer to do nothing to help Gurley. Maybe coaches don't give kickbacks but lawyers do.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 1:32 pm to
Tell me more about Napier, history88. Unless you are Napier's agent. Then don't.
Posted by Sanford&MunSon
T'Ville
Member since Jan 2013
2901 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 1:37 pm to
Yeah I just read up a little on the guy and he does seem like a good fit.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 1:40 pm to
The AJC's Bobo replacement list

1) Mark Richt
2) BMac
3) Randy Sanders CO-OC FSU
4) Lawrence Dawsey WRC FSU
5) Doug Nussemeier Fmr OC UM/UA
6) Thomas Brown Fmr RBC Wiscy (fricking really AJC?)
7) Kurt Roper Fmr OC Duke/UF
8) Al Borges LOL HOLY shite

AJC fricking sucks

ETA: Al fricking Borges, that fricking kills me that actually mentioned Al Borges.
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 1:43 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86428 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 1:43 pm to
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Thomas Brown




I think they just made a list of OCs that are out of work, a few ex UGA players, and drew names out of a hat.
Posted by Fats
Member since Nov 2012
3316 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 1:55 pm to
Surprised David Greene wasn't on the list, seems his name is the first one mentioned by the types that think ex-UGA players can just come in and coach division I football.
Posted by history88
Member since Mar 2014
312 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 1:57 pm to
He loves being at Alabama and he is smart. He has an incredible ability to teach the game and he can no doubt develop a QB to understand whatever system he is going to teach. Of all the offensive coaches i have bee. around i dont think anyone was better than Napier at just teaching the game. With this freshman TE coming in he would probably use a lot of 2 tight end formations. He is a always looking to learn and get better. I can tell this much, he is a fantastic talker so in regards to recruiting, i know why he is considered one of the beat if not the best.

I can say this too, when I was an assistant coach i would call the plays in my head or my own sheet of paper while my our OC at the timewould call the game and that really prepared me to call the plays a few years later. I am not meaning to toot my own horn bc obviously the biggest yellow flag here is that he has only called the plays for 2 years and hasnt in about 5 years but i know Napier has been preparing for his chance to do it again. A large component in my mind would be tht Napier is a christian and comes from a Christian back ground. That would certainly help with Richt.
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 2:00 pm
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:19 pm to
His religion should have little to nothing to do with this process. I like the idea of hiring a recruiter. IMO UGA doesn't necessarily need a world beater on the trail to do well but he seems to be pretty damn good. What worries me is this business at Clemson. I put heavy stock in to what Bama likes and the fact he was hired by Saban and co not once but twice and he was liked enough by McElwain to be brought along at QBC and Asst HC bolsters my opinion.

But it seems that things went very south at Clemson. Only 2 years as OC?

ETA: Wow, he was 31 when he became OC. I kept thinking he was an older coach who had blown his chance. WHo knows, guy may have learned a lot from his mistakes at CU and under his tutelage with McElwain/Kiffin.
This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 2:22 pm
Posted by jodeaux
Member since Sep 2014
1541 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:32 pm to
Please not Brian McClendon. All I'm going to say is there's a reason why Tracy Rocker, Rodney Garner and Brian McClendon haven't been considered for a coordinator position yet. We all have strengths and weaknesses but BMAC would take a long time to grow as a play caller, just like Bobo did. Bob o had his growing pains for a few years but got better.

Also, coaching running backs has to be the easiest fricking job in America. BMAC was a receiver.
Posted by history88
Member since Mar 2014
312 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:45 pm to
Religious preference is important. You saw how things played out with grantham and the headcase he was. All i am saying is if you have a coaching staff that has similar beliefs, home backgrounds, and private life will create better staff morale. Better staff moral and better teamwork will rub off on the players and and the team in general. Having coaches who have a lot in common and get along is a highly underrated component to hiring staff members.

Look at Jeremy Pruitt for example. He is outrageously positive and is a great teacher. He is a man that stands on his convictions and he cares for his players. He is very much like Richt but maybe more outspoken and less private.
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
5374 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:53 pm to
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Religious preference is important. You saw how things played out with grantham and the headcase he was.
I have no clue what religion Grantham is nor do I care.

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Having coaches who have a lot in common and get along is a highly underrated component to hiring staff members.

It's definitely important but, again, has nothing to do with religion. It'd be childish if there were coaches that couldn't get along because one was one religion and another wasn't. They have a lot more stressful things that cause their arguments than that.

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Look at Jeremy Pruitt for example. He is outrageously positive and is a great teacher. He is a man that stands on his convictions and he cares for his players.
This is important for sure. I just don't care what religion the coach is and I personally don't think it should be a positive or a negative in choosing one. Let the actual coaching ability speak for itself and hire someone based on merit. And that's not a shot at your guy because I honestly don't know much about him, he may very well turn out to be a good candidate but it'll be for the other reasons you mentioned if so.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 2:58 pm to
Exactly. I'm not religious. At all. But pretty much all my friends and coworkers are. We get along. I just don't make much a deal about it. The only time religion is gonna get in the way is if you're an a-hole. That goes for atheists, Christians, Muslims, etc.

Grantham was probably a Christian. Maybe not. What he was, though, was an a-hole.
Posted by history88
Member since Mar 2014
312 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 3:02 pm to
Look, it is a major deal. I am not going to air our the differences between a certain D-Coordinator that recently left and the our current HC but they were major differwnces in individual beliefs and discipline and yall saw how that worked out in the end.
Posted by history88
Member since Mar 2014
312 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 3:03 pm to
All i am saying is that a similar belief system is a major factor in the way a staff will treat others and treat their players. Thats huge!!!!
Posted by Hobnail
ATL
Member since Oct 2014
3197 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 3:08 pm to
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All i am saying is that a similar belief system is a major factor in the way a staff will treat others and treat their players


Congrats on summing up everything wrong with organized religion in one sentence!
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
5374 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 3:10 pm to
Yea but again, that still has zero to do with religion. Not trying to get into a religious debate but when people use the "he's a good christian man" reason for wanting a coach, it is frustrating because that shouldn't even remotely be a qualification for coaching. Coaches can be good people and still treat each other and players with respect even if they have different religious beliefs.
Posted by Sanford&MunSon
T'Ville
Member since Jan 2013
2901 posts
Posted on 12/23/14 at 3:11 pm to
Looks like Nussmier is headed to florida to be their oc so you can take that name off the list.
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