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re: Bama player lays a hit on Bulldogs

Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43783 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:19 pm to
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A kick off is a free ball. Period


There are still rules in place against hitting the receivers. Why do you think the kicking team can no longer just clean out the receiving team on onside kicks?

The only difference between a kick and a punt is the kicking team can recover the ball without the receiving team touching it I think.
Posted by Allyn McKeen
Key West, FL
Member since Jun 2012
4274 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:20 pm to
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Since it wasn't a punt that rule is out the window. It's a free ball there is no rule for giving the receiver space on a kick off.


Well, that just not true. The rule is the same for punts and kick-offs.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24905 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:20 pm to
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Skippy, you might not know Rogers Redding prepares a video of rule changes, fouls, rulings, good calls, missed calls, etc for the preseason officiating clinics. This play was used as an example of KCI.


No KCI since it was not a punt.

Know the whole story before jumping to conclusions.
Posted by asphinctersayswhat
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
3359 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:21 pm to
Lets see, we have LSU fans taking up for MSU and AU fans taking up for Bama. WTF is going on here?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43783 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:21 pm to
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Assuming a football player with decent speed can achieve 20 mph, that player will cover about 10 yards per second while running at full speed (1780 yards in a mile, times 20, divided by 60 for minutes, divided by 60 again for seconds). Considering that Christion Jones is a WR, and was running at close to full speed at the time of collision, he would have covered that yard in about a tenth of a second - which is precisely what happened and easily legal


This would all be just fantastic info if there wasn't a picture, and a video, that both prove Jones was within one yard when the ball was touched.
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 12:22 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43783 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:21 pm to
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Know the whole story before jumping to conclusions


You should take your own advice.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52607 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:22 pm to
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Well, that just not true. The rule is the same for punts and kick-offs.



Is it?

I always thought that there is no kick catch interference for non fair catches on kick offs...
Posted by Allyn McKeen
Key West, FL
Member since Jun 2012
4274 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:23 pm to
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No KCI since it was not a punt.

Know the whole story before jumping to conclusions


You need to go read the rules. The KCI rule even applies to bounced kick-offs.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43783 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

always thought that there is no kick catch interference for non fair catches on kick offs


They changed it a couple of years ago to protect the receiving team on onside kicks.
Posted by Spread
Alabama
Member since Aug 2012
1150 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:25 pm to
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This play was used as an example of KCI.


Care to cite a source for this claim, or should we just

quote:

go with what a fricktard on a message board says?


Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52607 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:27 pm to
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They changed it a couple of years ago to protect the receiving team on onside kicks.



that sux.
Posted by Spread
Alabama
Member since Aug 2012
1150 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:28 pm to
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that both prove Jones was within one yard when the ball was touched.


Wrong.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43783 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:30 pm to
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Wrong


No, not really.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43783 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:31 pm to
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that sux.


I agree. Onside kicks used to be awesome.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26950 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:33 pm to
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You need to read the rules again. Even without a fair catch the returner has a right to make the catch cleanly.


You need to read your own fricking links. Show us where in the rules interpretation it says "catch it cleanly". It doesn't. That's fricking bullshite. What it says is, " A88 times his approach so that he and the ball
arrive at approximately the same time. " Now you and State fans can whine about what constitutes "approximately", but it sure as hell doesn't say "catch it cleanly".
Posted by Spread
Alabama
Member since Aug 2012
1150 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:35 pm to
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No, not really


Agree to disagree
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:36 pm to

lol,, uncalled targeting!!

-SEC/bamazebras
Posted by PepaSpray
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Member since Aug 2012
11080 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:38 pm to
Should've called the fair catch.

I wouldn't ask the train why it hit me if I'm walking the tracks...
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43783 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:39 pm to
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BamaGradinTn


Really?


"Foul for interference with B44's opportunity to catch the kick."

What exactly would you say they mean by this? To anyone with reading comprehension above a 3rd grade level that's just a different wording of the phrase "Receiver not allowed to catch it cleanly".


quote:

" A88 times his approach so that he and the ball arrive at approximately the same time


You should also note that it says this is still kick catch interference.
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 12:42 pm
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26950 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:42 pm to
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Allyn McKeen
Bama player lays a hit on Bulldogs
quote:
No KCI since it was not a punt.

Know the whole story before jumping to conclusions


You need to go read the rules. The KCI rule even applies to bounced kick-offs.


Jesus fricking christ, what is it with dumbasses who tell people to read the rule book but have no fricking clue what it says?

"b. It is an interference foul if, before the receiver touches the ball, a Team
A player enters the area defined by the width of the receiver’s shoulders
and extending one yard in front of him. When in question it is a foul.(A.R.
6-4-1-X-XIII)
c. This protection terminates when the kick touches the ground (Exception:
Free kick, par. f below), when any player of Team B muffs or touches a
scrimmage kick beyond the neutral zone, or when any player of Team
B muffs or touches a free kick in the field of play or in the end zone
(Exception: Rule 6-5-1-b) (A.R. 6-4-1-IV). "
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 12:45 pm
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