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re: 2008 USC vs 2011 Alabama
Posted on 12/19/14 at 7:42 am to Tuscaloosa
Posted on 12/19/14 at 7:42 am to Tuscaloosa
3 Top 10 NFL draft picks in 2004 and one of the greatest SEC offenses in 2010. Quit fooling yourself.
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 8:01 am to Rhino5
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3 Top 10 NFL draft picks in 2004 and one of the greatest SEC offenses in 2010. Quit fooling yourself.
Your 2004 team managed to put up 21 whole points on a 6-6 Bama team.
Your 2010 Auburn team was down 24-0 to a 3 loss Bama team, and managed to put up 22 whole points against Oregon and 17 against MSU.
What makes you think either one of those teams could score more than 10 points on the greatest defense of all time?
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 8:32 am
Posted on 12/19/14 at 8:33 am to LSUDonMCO
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that didn't deserve to be named champion.
You still mad as frick
Posted on 12/19/14 at 8:39 am to GIbson05
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You still mad as frick
Until the day I die!
Posted on 12/19/14 at 8:40 am to Tuscaloosa
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Your 2004 team managed to put up 21 whole points on a 6-6 Bama team.
Your 2010 Auburn team was down 24-0 to a 3 loss Bama team, and managed to put up 22 whole points against Oregon and 17 against MSU.
What makes you think either one of those teams could score more than 10 points on the greatest defense of all time?
The game has changed so much since 2004. To say the 2011 Bama team was superior is to ignore the reality of the talent on the 2004 Auburn team. Most are surprised to realize that 2004 Auburn had superior NFL talent to USC that year. The same media hype everyone complains about concerning the SEC today was used to prop up USC in that era.
If my memory serves the 2010 Alabama is consistently listed as the most talented Alabama team of the Saban era per tRant.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:18 am to AMM AU9893
I've heard people say 08 USC would destroy Bama of 11 and wanted to know what the rant thinks (about who would win)
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:18 am to Chad44
I'm not a USC fan, but I like that avatar
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:23 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
The real question is, who is the best outta these 3:
1) 01 Miami
2) 95 Nebraska
3) 11 Alabama
I still believe that 95 Nebraska team was the best team EVER. I think 2011 Bama could've taken 01 Miami. Most of the 01 Miami team gets hype for stuff they did in the NFL.
1) 01 Miami
2) 95 Nebraska
3) 11 Alabama
I still believe that 95 Nebraska team was the best team EVER. I think 2011 Bama could've taken 01 Miami. Most of the 01 Miami team gets hype for stuff they did in the NFL.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:25 am to The Silverback
2008 fla would beat the shite out of that bama team
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 9:26 am
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:25 am to LSUDonMCO
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2011 Bama team? The second place team in the Western Division? Why didn't you choose 2003 USC?, then you would have two teams that didn't deserve to be named champion.
HAHAHA fricking LSU fans are such jokes. That or this is Jordan Jefferson I'm replying to.
Get the frick outta here. We're talking about Football. LSU doesn't play it anymore. Go to a baseball form, kid.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:27 am to The Silverback
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2011 Alabama
great defense, great offense with very good running backs and QB that knows how to win and rarely makes mistakes.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:33 am to Tigerman97
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The game has changed so much since 2004. To say the 2011 Bama team was superior is to ignore the reality of the talent on the 2004 Auburn team. Most are surprised to realize that 2004 Auburn had superior NFL talent to USC that year. The same media hype everyone complains about concerning the SEC today was used to prop up USC in that era
Auburn barely got by Virginia Tech in the Sugar Bowl, USC absolutely destroyed Oklahoma. USC was just a better team in '04. FWIW, I wanted Auburn to put up a better showing so there would be an argument for AU in '04, but if you actually watched both teams play USC was better
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:37 am to The Silverback
The 2011 Bama team was the best Bama team since the Bryant era. They had the best defensive stats since the 1930s and a very good offense. I think they would beat any other team in the modern era except maybe the best Miami team of 2000s or Nebraska teams of mid 90s.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:39 am to DoubleDown
Finally, someone who sees the light for what Miami really was! They are remembered for their talent, and that alone clouds people's reasoning in explaining just why they think they were the best ever
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:41 am to DoubleDown
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HAHAHA fricking LSU fans are such jokes. That or this is Jordan Jefferson I'm replying to. Get the frick outta here. We're talking about Football. LSU doesn't play it anymore. Go to a baseball form, kid.
You are still so mad that your "greatest team of all time" could not go undefeated, lost at home under the big lights, and completely gave up in OT and showed no heart at the end of the game. Hilarious. AJ is still falling down and giving up, it appears.
Then, you had to beg for a mulligan over and over again while hoping that everyone in front of you lost. You should be praying thanks to Iowa St. every day of your miserable life that your GREAT TEAM backed in to the rematch that they did not deserve.
Way to go on having the emotional edge in the championship game and for being the better team for exactly 60 minutes on 1/9. I have no doubt whatsoever that if a mad, motivated LSU Team had played Alabama again on 1/16 in Tiger Stadium that the outcome would have been quite different. As it is, LSU won the SEC in 2011 and the second place team in the West won a rematch. Yay!
So, go ahead wallowing in your superiority/inferiority complex. It suits you well.
I do love this stuff.
Don't get too mad, Bama fans. I'm just having fun this morning. I like to feel the blood boil a bit. Carry on. That 2011 Alabama team was the best that I ever saw. It is just a shame that it existed the same year of the best LSU team I ever saw and we split the two matchups. I just wish that THAT LSU team got the credit it deserved. Even with the JJ/Lee problem, it would have beaten any team in other years. Oh well.
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 9:44 am
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:41 am to bama1959
They would beat the mid 90s Nebraska teams just because of the change of the game. The game was faster in 2011 than 1995 and like I've posted before, we knew more about weight training, nutrition, etc. To top it off, most teams of the modern era can't handle the size, strength, and physicality of these Saban Bama teams with coach Cochran
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:43 am to AlaTiger
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Then, you had to beg for a mulligan over and over again while hoping that everyone in front of you lost
To be fair, this is a myth. Bama was only outside of the top 2 for two weeks. We maintained our #2 ranking for the last 3 weeks of the season, and didn't need anyone else to lose during championship week. Had OSU not beaten the dog shite out of Oklahoma during the last week of the season, nobody would have been arguing for them to jump us.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:47 am to The Silverback
This year's team may not have the best players but they may be playing better team ball at this point than any of Saban's other teams. Our offense has better explosive potential with a slightly weaker OL. Our defense has weaker CB play but our CBs have the potential to be even better than any of them when the light finally comes on.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:49 am to The Silverback
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They would beat the mid 90s Nebraska teams just because of the change of the game. The game was faster in 2011 than 1995 and like I've posted before, we knew more about weight training, nutrition, etc. To top it off, most teams of the modern era can't handle the size, strength, and physicality of these Saban Bama teams with coach Cochran
I think that when comparing teams in the modern era, you can't look at it quite that way. You have to compare them more for what they did on the field against top competition as opposed to who exactly would win head-to-head. Otherwise, with the advances that we are seeing in the game/conditioning, you would not be able to get more than 5-6 years down the road without comparing the current champion as the best of all-time. I don't really think that is fair to the game.
The 95 Nebraska team was the best I ever saw. 2011 Alabama is up there, but I do think that the mid 90s Nebraska teams were a bit better.
But, honestly, the only two games that the 2011 Alabama team was even slowed down was the two LSU games. Bama fans make fun of 21-0, but before that LSU defense gave out in the 4th, the game was 15-0 with 5 FGs only. Bama still could not really do that much, even though they were moving the ball fairly well.
It was the combination of the LSU offense playing horribly and Bama defense playing great that made the biggest difference.
Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:54 am to Tuscaloosa
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To be fair, this is a myth. Bama was only outside of the top 2 for two weeks. We maintained our #2 ranking for the last 3 weeks of the season, and didn't need anyone else to lose during championship week. Had OSU not beaten the dog shite out of Oklahoma during the last week of the season, nobody would have been arguing for them to jump us.
Yeah, I know. Honestly, I just like to argue about this. It is fun. Don't take me too seriously here. I do still think that Oklahoma State was more deserving, but that is largely because I believe that you should have to win your conference to play for a national championship. It really isn't about Alabama, per se. I have ALWAYS believed that and still do. I do not want to see 2 SEC teams in the playoff until we go to at least 6 teams. It should all be conference champions.
I love that conference championships mean something still. It makes the season that much more exciting. The regular season is ruined in basketball and winning your conference or conference tournament means very little. As long as you get hot for the NCAAs, you can still have a chance at the big prize, even if you were mediocre all season. That is not a lot of fun.
So, that is my bias and I believed that back in 2001 when Nebraska got in and in 2003 when Oklahoma backed in. It should have been LSU-USC in 2003.
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