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re: Pete Carroll vs Nick Saban (college)
Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:30 pm to craigbiggio
Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:30 pm to craigbiggio
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He said he would have stayed if he knew about the sanctions coming down
That's easy to say from the comforts of Seattle.
Pete's a great, great coach but if he said that, he was telling a flat out lie. Ray Charles saw those sanctions coming.
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:33 pm to craigbiggio
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He said he would have stayed if he knew about the sanctions coming down
He had turned down multiple west coast job opportunities up until then.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:36 pm to lsupride87
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Are you not reading the chart? He is 14-5 against top 10 teams. He did unreal against good competition
Only 5 of those were Pac games.
01 Oregon L
02 Washington State L
03 Washington State W
04 California W
08 Oregon W
Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:42 pm to Chadaristic
Yea bro. Cherry limeade all day
Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:46 pm to Korin
quote:That's my point. He would actually do better in a tougher conference. Unranked shite teams seem to be his problem
Only 5 of those were Pac games.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:47 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I haven't read through the thread so I'm sure this has been brought up but two things: Pete cheated, Saban hasn't and Saban coaches in a much much tougher conference than Pete. Southern Cal was the Pac12, Alabama has to deal with Auburn, LSU, Florida, even Georgia, Ole Miss, Arkansas, and USC. The Pac12 didn't have a conference championship game.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:49 pm to ibldprplgld
Carroll, IMO, is the best football coach alive and one of the best ever.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:50 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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After the Harbaugh discussion and a side discussion into Carroll it made me wonder how the two compared.
IN ADDITION, PETE CARROLL HAD 2 AP TITLES (1 BCS TITLE).
All 3 of Saban's unranked losses were in his first year. Every loss since then has been to a team that finished ranked.
Uh how accurate is this thing? Saban has 4 BCS titles. 1 at LSU and 3 at Alabama.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:03 pm to oneusairman
One coach torpedoed his program with crippling NCAA sanctions and left town; one did not.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:05 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Carroll, IMO, is the best football coach alive and one of the best ever.
Despite leaving a program with crippling sanctions?
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:10 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Pete Carroll was a beast in college. It took the ncaa to end his dynasty. I do think he had it easier to recruit at usc and to win on the west coast.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:18 pm to CrimsonChin
Similar to Meyer, he left when the going got tough.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:19 pm to Korin
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Despite leaving a program with crippling sanctions?
Yeah. That doesn't have anything to do with his coaching ability.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:23 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Pretty close except where it counts the most- NCs which means he was great in his conference but not as much on a national basis.
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:23 pm to Henry Jones Jr
It most certainly does at the college level.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:24 pm to bama1959
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Pretty close except where it counts the most- NCs
He won the PAC-12 seven years in a row and won two national titles (including the AP title). If he came back to the college level and stayed at a place like USC for 20 years, I think he'd win at least 4.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:28 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Pete Carroll at Bama would be the same as Saban at Bama
same for harbaugh
same for harbaugh
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:30 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Hire a proven cheater if you want to but you will get what you pay for. I'll take the guy without the baggage every time.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:30 pm to bama1959
quote:2 national titles compared to three. Also, in 2008, he went 12-1. Just didnt get "voted in" to play for the title
Pretty close except where it counts the most- NCs which means he was great in his conference but not as much on a national basis
Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:31 pm to cas4t
quote:I agree. They would both win a ton of games and be in contention every year
Pete Carroll at Bama would be the same as Saban at Bama
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