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re: SEC States Vices

Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:37 pm to
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:37 pm to
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Memphis is dangerous, Tennessee, largely, isn't.


Not completely true. Nashville pulls more than its share. In a recent FBI ranking of dangerous cities, Memphis was 5th worst. Flint, MI was #1. A Business Insider article cited how both cities went to some insanely detailed reporting system to try and use big data and statistical analysis to target resources and bring numbers down LINK.

Evidently it is having a positive effect in Memphis and the numbers are coming down some, but because of the way both cities report crime, they will always be higher than cities that don't. It's still pretty bad here, and the crap local government certainly doesn't help.

Nashville uses more conventional reporting methods, but still ranked 18th highest, if memory serves. People in Nashville love to brag about how much safer it is than Memphis, but that's still pretty bad.

So both of the big cities bring the numbers down. Not just Memphis.

(Edit- I guess Knoxville is holding its own. 6th most dangerous mid-sized city in the U.S. Good job Vols! LINK)
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 7:53 pm
Posted by bayou2003
Mah-zur-ree (417)
Member since Oct 2003
17646 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:40 pm to
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Worst puppy mills: MO


I thought we voted to put a stop to that. Hmmmm.
Posted by ErnestTBassmaster
Bird Whistle, Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
2583 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:40 pm to
I remember lighting up a pack of Kools with my friends in fifth grade. My dad caught us and said, "Smoke up, Ernest T!" so I did.
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 7:41 pm
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
Member since Oct 2010
8329 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:53 pm to
I have murdered 0 people since moving to LA so I'm pulling my weight as well.
Posted by winston318
Oklahoma City,OK
Member since Sep 2009
3175 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:12 pm to
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Is it because of their high immigrant population?


Nope. It's due to kids that drop out because they can provide better for their family by going to work on the Rig. The point of education is to get paid.
Posted by morriscat2
tennessee
Member since Jun 2012
1934 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:14 pm to
You obviously are not up on current affairs in Nashville. Every night on the local news someone has been shot or murdered. If it bleeds, it leads.
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
15812 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:27 pm to
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(Edit- I guess Knoxville is holding its own. 6th most dangerous mid-sized city in the U.S. Good job Vols


The 10 murders committed in Knoxville in 2012 sound staggering.

Edit: Nashville had 43 homicides last year, several that were counted from the year prior or it would have been in the 30s. Those numbers happened in a region with a larger population than Memphis as well. Memphis was at 150 homicides for the same time period. With all the growth Nashville has had the last 20 years, there's definitely been issues that have come from that, but let's not pretend Memphis isn't and hasnt been the issue in the state of Tennessee and one of the biggest for the United States.
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 9:59 pm
Posted by gumbeaux
Member since Jun 2004
4460 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:54 pm to
Arkansas - Most sibling marriages
Posted by Volatile
Tennessee
Member since Apr 2014
5471 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:00 pm to
Let's be honest though, a gigantic chunk of violent crime in Memphis is gang violence.

Unless you're walking down the street in Orange Mound at 2 in the morning it's actually not all that dangerous for the average person in Memphis.
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
46322 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:05 pm to
quote:

Arky - fewest advanced degree

You dumbs

Don't need a degree to start your own business

Can also make a lot of money without an advanced degree
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 10:11 pm
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12261 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:17 pm to
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Not completely true. Nashville pulls more than its share. In a recent FBI ranking of dangerous cities, Memphis was 5th worst. Flint, MI was #1. A Business Insider article cited how both cities went to some insanely detailed reporting system to try and use big data and statistical analysis to target resources and bring numbers down LINK. Evidently it is having a positive effect in Memphis and the numbers are coming down some, but because of the way both cities report crime, they will always be higher than cities that don't. It's still pretty bad here, and the crap local government certainly doesn't help. Nashville uses more conventional reporting methods, but still ranked 18th highest, if memory serves. People in Nashville love to brag about how much safer it is than Memphis, but that's still pretty bad. So both of the big cities bring the numbers down. Not just Memphis. (Edit- I guess Knoxville is holding its own. 6th most dangerous mid-sized city in the U.S. Good job Vols! LINK)


Dude, Nashville had 43 total murders last year. Compare that to other cities and get back to me.
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 10:19 pm
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
15812 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:47 pm to
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Compare that to other cities and get back to me.


155 less than New Orleans, 107 less than Memphis, 72 less than Jacksonville, 31 less than Baton Rouge, 23 less than Birmingham, 7 less than Montgomery
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 10:50 pm
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12261 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 11:44 pm to
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155 less than New Orleans, 107 less than Memphis, 72 less than Jacksonville, 31 less than Baton Rouge, 23 less than Birmingham, 7 less than Montgomery


And Nashville has a much bigger population than most of those cities
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
15812 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:10 am to
Yeah, Atlanta and Charlotte are the only 2 cities that I can think of with larger metros in the South East
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72869 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:41 am to
How can a state with the highest murder rate not be the most dangerous?
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12261 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 12:48 am to
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How can a state with the highest murder rate not be the most dangerous?


From what I've heard it has something with how states report crimes. States like a Tennessee report with transparency, while others do not
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43978 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:24 am to
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Fewest high school graduates per capita: TX That's a little surprising. Is it because of their high immigrant population?

Yes.
But their results are way off.
They don't show their methodology, so it's tough to review the findings; but I think they're old, flawed data.

Contrast it with this more recen Politifact publication: Rick Perry says Texas has third-highest high school graduation rates, a "significant turnaround"
quote:

All told, Texas graduation rates are improving and the state looks strong compared to most others. We rate this statement as Mostly True.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 2:03 am to
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Nashville had 43 total murders last year.


Last I checked, murder isn't the only crime that counts.

I'm just pointing out that, while Memphis certainly has plenty of issues, the rest of the state uses this as a convenient scapegoat and claims their shite doesn't stink. Well, the FBI's crime (crime, not just murder) statistics prove otherwise.
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 2:05 am
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 2:26 am to
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Yeah, Atlanta and Charlotte are the only 2 cities that I can think of with larger metros in the South East


I know metro is what everyone goes by when thinking of cities, but most crime reporting is done by city proper. That's why Flint, MI often shows up high on violent crime and dangerous city lists, even though it is really just a suburb.

Going by city size, Memphis is actually still a little bigger than Nashville as of the last census. It is the 3rd largest city in the southeast and 20th in the nation. The suburbs here haven't grown as large, so it is only in the 40s as a metro area, and is definitely smaller than Nashville in that regard.

Just pointing out that the burbs don't count when looking at crime numbers for a city. Those areas in both Memphis and Nashville tend to be much safer, anyway. I live in a suburb in North MS that is only 15 miles from the state line, and we had one murder (an intentional hit and run) in recent memory.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12261 posts
Posted on 12/19/14 at 2:35 am to
Yeah, and 107 more murders. There's really no way you can work those numbers
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