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Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:43 pm to NGATiger
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NGATiger
From what your saying, your idea of "pure coaching" is merely some one who can diagram x's and o's, and call certain plays/timeouts/fakes at the right time in a game.
You treat the other stuff such as "his ability to get his players to play hard for 60 minutes" as ancillary, where as I think this is the main job of a head coach.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:43 pm to hawgfaninc
No. Bill Snyder.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:45 pm to NGATiger
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Who had greater talent? Ill give you UGA.
LSU had greater talent in 2008. Auburn and Tennesee were at least of equal talent looking at the players who contributed.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:46 pm to RangerRicky
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He was 5-2 against top 25 ranked teams, including 3 wins against Florida. Yeah, the "king of upsets".
The hell you talking about Willis?
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:47 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
quote:Les Miles comes to mind
Some would probably frick up and do worse though.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 12:50 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Of course Bama boosters paying top dollar
The thing about Saban taking over the program is that our recruiting sites have gone to shite. Their is never any good information leaked. The boosters have been cut out of the system. When boosters are in the info eventually gets leaked. Now when the puppet Chizik was coach of Auburn the recruiting information being leaked was as good as gold. Their boosters were All In and the information was flowing. Its not surprising that an idiot like you would want to project though. That is why every time you post your word means nothing.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:13 pm to DrunkenStuporMan
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Saban
quote:Look at his Michigan State teams and give us the answer.
a team full of 0, 2, and 3 stars
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:14 pm to samson73103
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LSU had greater talent in 2008
We had 1 player go above the 5th round that went out that year. Everyone else was really young.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:18 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
To the OP: is he THE best at this per your definition? Probably not. But he is damn good. Regardless of the talent on the roster, winning year in year out as the preseason #1 is really hard. It requires a certain skillset in managing emotions. Of course this is a way different problem than trying to win with 2 stars. Those who constantly try to diminish his skillset to simple recruiting either have an agenda (RebsontheRise), or are senile, with an agenda(Spurrier).
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:36 pm to RangerRicky
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He was 5-2 against top 25 ranked teams
Surely he faced more than 7 Top 25 teams during his years at Auburn
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:38 pm to hawgfaninc
I think he probably would be great with bad talent. There comes a point where you can only get so much production out of college kids no matter how talented they are. You only have so much time to work with them, and egos come into play. A lot of people thought Carroll didn't get the most out of his players at USC. Now, he is one of the best coaches in the NFL.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:58 pm to hawgfaninc
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Lets say you had a team full of 0, 2, and 3 stars . Would Saban be your first choice to get that team 10 or more wins
Just look back at his Michigan State days. He wasn't the beast that he is now
Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:04 pm to bodask42
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You treat the other stuff such as "his ability to get his players to play hard for 60 minutes" as ancillary, where as I think this is the main job of a head coach.
I actually consider all the aspects almost equal, with recruiting having the most importance. I think Sabans ability to recruit and motivate cover up the few holes he has in strategy, most of the time anyway.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:54 pm to winston318
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Just look back at his Michigan State days. He wasn't the beast that he is now
It's almost like he has improved at his profession or something.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 3:02 pm to RB10
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He would have won every game by 10+ for the past 5 years of this were true.
Another illiterate LSU fan.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 3:19 pm to thefloydian
I would say no, but it's not really fair to Saban. He does a great job obviously
Guys who are better developers of talent to me include:
Patterson
D'antonio
Bert
However, all 3 of those guys would kill to get Saban's talent on a yearly basis, so Saban does a ton right
Guys who are better developers of talent to me include:
Patterson
D'antonio
Bert
However, all 3 of those guys would kill to get Saban's talent on a yearly basis, so Saban does a ton right
Posted on 12/17/14 at 3:32 pm to Buckeye06
Bama players are overrated* and he has had pretty good success, so I am answering "yes".
*souce: NFL draft bust Trent Richardson and the Bama bump on recruiting sites.
*souce: NFL draft bust Trent Richardson and the Bama bump on recruiting sites.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 3:33 pm to Rocco Lampone
saban the best, miles the absolute worse
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