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re: Ferguson Protesters to block the Galleria entrance tomorrow and Friday?
Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:08 am to BluegrassBelle
Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:08 am to BluegrassBelle
Just because you ignore the efforts of blacks working within their community to address their issues doesn't mean it's not happening. There's a plethora of examples of people within the black community pointing their finger at themselves for a lot of the problems they face, so get off your high horse and save the BS for someone else that will fall for that line.
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:15 am to FourThreeForty
Is there a link to this so-called protest anywhere?
Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:16 am to JustGetItRight
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Roughly half of all teenaged black males who die each year are murdered by other young black males and practically nobody cares
And 83% of white murder victims are killed by other whites, so what's your point?
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f those lives really mattered, the people protesting would have been in the streets years ago
They have been. You've just been too busy making fun of them and marginalizing their cause.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:44 am to The Spleen
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And 83% of white murder victims are killed by other whites, so what's your point?
The point is in the part of the statistics that you left out. Roughly HALF of black teenage males that die each year are murdered. For white teenage males, less that 10% that die each year are murdered. That's an incredibly vast difference. It gets even worse when you dig deeper into the numbers. Close to twice as many black teenagers are murdered in any given year as white teenagers despite there being 6 times as many white teenagers in America.
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They have been. You've just been too busy making fun of them and marginalizing their cause.
Please point to me making fun of anyone working to prevent this violence. You can't. I'm pretty sure on this very forum I've praised people like Ray Nettles in Montgomery who are voices in the wilderness and far too often shouted down by others looking to pass the blame.
You're just too caught up in some bizarre guilt/political correctness trap that keeps you from admitting that there are vast cultural differences at play so you attack anyone pointing out that the emperor's not wearing any clothes.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:22 am to sjmabry
I'm getting the laugh at the thought of some commuter who is heading home to Chelsea or Inverness and has to put up with this. They either won't care or will run right over someone in their way. Not only that, do those who are protesting think they'll be allowed on private property in order to protest? No, they'll be arrested right on the spot because the property owners do not want to lose one dollar over this.
Just goes to show you how much of a joke this all is. No thought put into it.
Just goes to show you how much of a joke this all is. No thought put into it.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:32 am to Bham4Tide
Look up "Black Lives Matter" birmingham.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:36 am to The Spleen
quote:butcher english language, bring up something from years ago that has nothing to do with current events. One march years ago doesn't show any concern for the staggering violence that young male blacks commit vs other young male blacks. If they cared about it then you would see the crime stats going down. They would be cleaning up hoods and it would make news.
I bet you made fun of the Million Man March, which addressed the very thing you claim black people don't care about. Get out if here with your ignorance.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:52 am to The Spleen
I don't ignore anything. I see it everyday in my profession. And I'm not working in the lily white, upscale part of a major city. Two of my students have had siblings murdered in their neighborhoods. One of which was a toddler shot in a drive by.
The response? A little face time on the news for our local Al Sharpton wannabe and they still haven't found all of the people involved because people in the neighborhood "aren't snitchin'".
So please spare me the accusations of being a "fascist" because I don't buy into the PR bullshite that displayed.
The response? A little face time on the news for our local Al Sharpton wannabe and they still haven't found all of the people involved because people in the neighborhood "aren't snitchin'".
So please spare me the accusations of being a "fascist" because I don't buy into the PR bullshite that displayed.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:04 am to Rebelgator
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Talk about what exactly? The justified shooting of a thug piece of shite?
Truthfully, I don't give a shite if it was justified or not, thug or not. For all I care they all can DIAF, cops and thugs alike.
My only point is your talking about it in this thread. You wouldn't be if they were doing it with a permit quietly in whatever park.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:10 am to MrLarson
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You are so right. This protest that hasn't happened yet has my white privilege making me want to give away all my possessions to the cause.
You big dummy.
Where in the hell did I suggest that you asshat. Your reading comprehension is next to nil.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:17 am to BluegrassBelle
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I don't ignore anything.
Sure you do. Look, you're the one that seems ignorant to all the efforts many within the black community have done, and are doing, to address problems with violence. I even gave you a link to a column that had more links in it to various efforts that have been done. There have been protests, marches, vigils, all kinds of things to draw attention to it and work to improve it. Unfortunately they don't get the media attention these other protests have gotten.
But you seem to have a problem with some choosing to protest over the recent rash of unarmed blacks killed by police. Why is that?
So may be your vitriol should be directed at the media for perpetuating what you think is PR bullshite. Me, I think it's a serious problem when cops are killing unarmed citizens with impunity. I also think it's a serious problem that so many blacks are killing fellow blacks.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:29 am to The Spleen
And you're one the throwing around "fascist" because people are calling out the BS. You gave me a link to The Atlantic. Congrats. I'm giving you personal, first hand experience in a community that I see everyday.
Because it's a crock of shite. Your passive aggressive suggestions are precious though. It's a bandaid on a problem that extends way beyond a handful of bad white cops shooting young black men (and in some of those cases, young black men who put themselves in questionable situations). I've seen NOTHING to address the culture that fosters the robbery that Michael Brown committed that led to his altercation, the resisting arrest in Eric Garner's case, or the parental responsibility in the Tamir Rice case where he was brandishing an air gun with it's orange safety tip removed.
And lastly I didn't grow up with money. My parents were on welfare for a time when I was in elementary and are both blue collar workers (education and railroad). And I grew up in a diverse neighborhood. But I went to high school, went to college, and have worked since I was 14 years old. And for all the shitty cops in this area (and there's some) I somehow managed to not have a run in with any of them. I don't have the time to go out and protest because I work with at-risk youth like the ones we're talking about and trying to prevent them from dying on my watch. But there's little to no help from their communities when there's not TV time and some kick backs to support it.
That's the reality. Sorry it doesn't fit your agenda.
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But you seem to have a problem with some choosing to protest over the recent rash of unarmed blacks killed by police. Why is that?
Because it's a crock of shite. Your passive aggressive suggestions are precious though. It's a bandaid on a problem that extends way beyond a handful of bad white cops shooting young black men (and in some of those cases, young black men who put themselves in questionable situations). I've seen NOTHING to address the culture that fosters the robbery that Michael Brown committed that led to his altercation, the resisting arrest in Eric Garner's case, or the parental responsibility in the Tamir Rice case where he was brandishing an air gun with it's orange safety tip removed.
And lastly I didn't grow up with money. My parents were on welfare for a time when I was in elementary and are both blue collar workers (education and railroad). And I grew up in a diverse neighborhood. But I went to high school, went to college, and have worked since I was 14 years old. And for all the shitty cops in this area (and there's some) I somehow managed to not have a run in with any of them. I don't have the time to go out and protest because I work with at-risk youth like the ones we're talking about and trying to prevent them from dying on my watch. But there's little to no help from their communities when there's not TV time and some kick backs to support it.
That's the reality. Sorry it doesn't fit your agenda.
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 10:35 am
Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:32 am to BluegrassBelle
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(and in some of those cases, young black men who put themselves in questionable situations).
I'm going to say the majority of them..
Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:40 am to FourThreeForty
Vestavia Hills is closing the Cahaba Heights Elementary School early today to avoid "disruptions" from the protests.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:41 am to The Spleen
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But you seem to have a problem with some choosing to protest over the recent rash of unarmed blacks killed by police. Why is that?
Please point to this 'recent rash' - in particular evidence that unarmed black citizens are being killed by the police at a rate any higher now than in the past or that it only happens to black citizens.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:50 am to BluegrassBelle
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That's the reality.
No, that's your reality, and your perception of reality. You're projecting what you see in your community to the rest of the nation.
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Because it's a crock of shite
I guess we'll agree to disagree. I don't think protesting over cops killing unarmed citizens with impunity is a crock of shite.
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I've seen NOTHING to address the culture that fosters the robbery that Michael Brown committed
You should watch Al Sharpton's eulogy at Brown's funeral then, because he addressed it.
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And lastly I didn't grow up with money.
Nor did I.
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But I went to high school, went to college, and have worked since I was 14 years old. And for all the shitty cops in this area (and there's some) I somehow managed to not have a run in with any of them.
Me too, but I did have a few run-ins with cops and on a couple of occasions I witnessed the difference in how I was treated compared ot my black friends.
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I don't have the time to go out and protest because I work
Maybe the protesters work as well, but the cause is important enough to them to take vacation days, or unpaid time off. You don't know, nor do I, so stop projecting.
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trying to prevent them from dying on my watch. But there's little to no help from their communities when there's not TV time and some kick backs to support it.
Good for you. That's extremely noble work. And I agree there is little support in many of these communities, and more should be done to address that, both from within those communities and from outside them. But I don't think that diminishes anything these protesters are trying to accomplish.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 11:23 am to Evolved Simian
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Vestavia Hills is closing the Cahaba Heights Elementary School early today to avoid "disruptions" from the protests.
Ah yes. Lets interrupt quality education for students. That'll show them!
Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:20 pm to JustGetItRight
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The point is in the part of the statistics that you left out. Roughly HALF of black teenage males that die each year are murdered. For white teenage males, less that 10% that die each year are murdered. That's an incredibly vast difference. It gets even worse when you dig deeper into the numbers. Close to twice as many black teenagers are murdered in any given year as white teenagers despite there being 6 times as many white teenagers in America.
But, but, this doesn't go along with the agenda.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:29 pm to BluegrassBelle
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and in some of those cases, young black men who put themselves in questionable situations
He put himself in more than a questionable situation. If you rob a store, assault the store owner, don't follow an officers instructions and try to steal his gun then you're putting yourself in a killable situation. Do all those things and you've just greatly increased your chances of being shot, white or black.
And I hope everyone of these protestors are arrested. There is a way to protest, this is not it. Most of these hipsters just wanna be a part of something and it's really just a social gathering.
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 12/18/14 at 3:49 pm to BluegrassBelle
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quality education
That's a stretch. It's still Alabama.
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