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re: The Effect of Spurrier's "2-3 more years" of coaching comment - 6 Decommitments

Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:10 am to
Posted by bobsacamano
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:10 am to
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Last Thursday Gamecock head coach Steve Spurrier visited with Fields to try to calm his concerns about his own future and that of his defensive coaches. He was not successful.

“All he could tell me was every coach was under a two year contract,” Fields said. “He didn’t give me much of an explanation. I’m concerned about both (Spurrier and assistants). Obviously, I’m hurt. South Carolina was one of my school I wanted to go to but at the end of the day things change and I have to do what’s beset for me.”

Fields said his dad, former Panthers’ linebacker Mark Fields, wasn’t all that happy with his decision. “My dad is mad because he bought all that Gamecock stuff and now he has to take it back,” he said.


This is why people are pissed. Fields was probably our best prospect coming in. He wanted to come here and our coaches basically effed it up.
Posted by gameovergt
Orange Park, FL via Stevenson, AL
Member since Nov 2010
1963 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:11 am to
LMAO at his dad for buying gamecock gear.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:11 am to
Spurrier doesn't need to step down, but you need to hire a DC very soon with the HCIW tag.

That should be attractive to plenty of coaches.

ETA: We'll be facing this same thing pretty soon.
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 9:14 am
Posted by bobsacamano
Member since Oct 2014
159 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:12 am to
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And who got you in position to have a great recruiting class?



What good does it do us if he got us in that position only to lose it all before signing day? It's like watching a coach get us all the way to the goal line against the #1 team in the country only to down the ball until time runs out.
Posted by Homespun
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2009
419 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:14 am to
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He didn't see the last couple of seasons under Holtz, apparently.


You mean the last three seasons with records of 5-7, 5-7 and 6-6 with no bowl games?
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
12640 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:15 am to
maybe he should have said 2-3 more drinks than quit.
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 9:16 am
Posted by ErnestTBassmaster
Bird Whistle, Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
2583 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:16 am to
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The point is, if he's going to step down at some point in the near future, he either needs to do it now, or publicly announce some type of succession plan

I can't recall a single school that handled the transition of a great coach retiring with announcing a succession plan that actually worked. Florida State, maybe, when Bowden retired? Not many. When Bryant and Stallings retired, Alabama did not handle the transition well at all, and it may be that this is the price a program pays for having a great coach who got your team to unprecedented heights.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51228 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:16 am to
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LMAO at his dad for buying gamecock gear.


If anything, it shows how solid they were at one point.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79952 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:17 am to
He'll find a way to win at Kyle on Halloween though
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 9:18 am
Posted by bobsacamano
Member since Oct 2014
159 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:22 am to
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I can't recall a single school that handled the transition of a great coach retiring with announcing a succession plan that actually worked. Florida State, maybe, when Bowden retired? Not many. When Bryant and Stallings retired, Alabama did not handle the transition well at all, and it may be that this is the price a program pays for having a great coach who got your team to unprecedented heights.


Again, I don't disagree with you, but there's plenty of us that would rather see the transition occur now rather than have it play out over 3 more years. 3 years is an eternity in college football. So we could either watch recruits not want to come here with the imminent end of the Spurrier Era for 3 more seasons, or get another coach in here and see if he can build on the success that Spurrier's gotten us so far.

SC already played the grateful fan base once to Holtz. As a poster above mentioned, his last 3 years were a disaster, resulting in loss of control of the locker room and an embarrassing brawl with Clemson in Holtz's last game.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
35936 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:27 am to
We go 6-6, get blown out by our rival, lose three games in which we had a double-digit lead in the 4th quarter, have the worst defensive squad since the Brad Scott era and finish dead last in the conference in almost every defensive statistical category.

Since the end of the season, we have fired no one from our defensive staff. We failed to even offer Muschamp the DC job. On top of all this bs, our coach then makes public comments that have caused six recruits to decommit, all in the period of less than one week.

So looking towards next year, we lose Mike Davis and multiple O-Linemen. Even worse, we could have a walk-on starting at QB. This doesn't even take into account our struggles defensively. We are fast approaching a dumpster fire it appears.

This whole situation illustrates, precisely I might add, why the University of South Carolina will never win an SEC Championship in football. I love them to death, but damn it's rough being a Gamecock fan.
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
4557 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:31 am to
There's only one answer here and that's for him to go ahead and retire. That was a blunder of major proportions. I know you want to be honest and tell all but in this case it's best to be quite. It's better not to know until it happens then find out in a few weeks who the next guy is rather than not know for 2 years.
Posted by Queen City Cock
Charlotte, NC
Member since May 2013
129 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 9:57 am to
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When Bryant and Stallings retired, Alabama did not handle the transition well at all, and it may be that this is the price a program pays for having a great coach who got your team to unprecedented heights.


You may be right about this but it is very hard to watch it happen first hand.

Of course every true Gamecock fan is very thankful for Spurrier getting us to where we are. We would have lost way more than 6 games without him this year and I don't want him to retire. However, some sort of succession plan that we can point to needs to be in place. Simply telling a kid his position coach is under contract for 2 years is not enough. Saying you're only going to coach for 2-3 years and not addressing the inevitable vacuum that occurs afterwards is crazy.

This recruiting class evaporating and the cluster that next year's recruiting class will be is on Spurrier. The lack of a plan for post-Spurrier is on the AD.
Posted by Cockeee Don
Myrtle Beach, SC
Member since Jul 2014
690 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 10:00 am to
I'm "content" because there is nothing I can do about it. I am just a fan and alumnus who watches the games and cheers for his team. It's the holiday season, cheer up.
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
4557 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 10:04 am to
I just checked rivals and you're still doing OK at #18. That's not great but it could be worse. UF is #88 so count your blessings at the moment.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69890 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 10:40 am to
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This whole situation illustrates, precisely I might add, why the University of South Carolina will never win an SEC Championship in football. I love them to death, but damn it's rough being a Gamecock fan.




At least you have baseball and Womens Basketball
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139750 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 10:43 am to
This was my fear for Spurrier all along in his commendable effort to win another SEC title before he retired. He's going to stick to long and look silly at the end.

I was hoping he wouldn't do that but alas...
Posted by bobsacamano
Member since Oct 2014
159 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 10:47 am to
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The lack of a plan for post-Spurrier is on the AD.


I'm more than a little worried that we made a bad choice promoting Tanner to AD. I'm not sure a coach, as good as a coach Tanner is, can just walk into running an organization with an $90 million budget without any prior experience running something similar.
Posted by Cockeee Don
Myrtle Beach, SC
Member since Jul 2014
690 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 10:48 am to
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The point is, if he's going to step down at some point in the near future, he either needs to do it now, or publicly announce some type of succession plan. Neither have been done, and as a result, we've watched 20% of what would have been the best recruiting class in our history evaporate into thin air with who knows how many more defections to come.



Ray Tanner has made it clear that there won't be a "succession" plan if it involves a
coach-in-waiting. Don't know how else it could be done.
Posted by Queen City Cock
Charlotte, NC
Member since May 2013
129 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 10:58 am to
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Ray Tanner has made it clear that there won't be a "succession" plan if it involves a
coach-in-waiting. Don't know how else it could be done.


Then I guess we'll need to embrace the Decline.
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