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Big XII Meeting With Expansion Candidates

Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:07 pm
Posted by NaturalStateReb
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:07 pm
Says The Sporting News.

According to TSN, Big XII officials recently met with officials from the University of Cincinnati. Cincinnati officials were told that the league had not decided to expand, but that Cincinnati would be a candidate if the Big XII decided to do so. These meetings occurred even before the league's snub by the playoff committee.

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Big XII officials also met in New York last week at a time that just happened to coincide with an annual national meeting of athletic directors. Brett McMurphy of ESPN has tweeted that his sources say the league is not expanding, but in the last round of expansion, everyone denied that they were expanding until they were.

Whenever expansion is discussed, we always hear the same old refrain: it's about money. True, but what's not being discussed is the potential money the Big XII is losing by not expanding. Each playoff participant gets a conference $6 million, and each NY6 bowl participant chips in $4 million; both types of participants also net the conference $2 million for expenses. With TCU and Baylor in NY6 bowls, the Big XII is going to get $8 million, but the lack of a conference championship game probably cost them a playoff spot, costing the conference at least $4 million, and possibly much more.

When you consider the situation the SEC is in with that of the Big XII, the numbers can really grow. The SEC has 3 schools in the playoffs/NY6. That means the conference will get $43.5 million. With just 10 schools and no CCG, it's highly unlikely that the Big XII will ever be in this situation, basically costing the conference a chance at a chance of as much as $8 million before the season even starts. The potential losses can be bigger. Let's say that the Big XII gets a team in the playoff, but can't land another team in a NY6 bowl; the loss of the money from the Sugar Bowl, a Big XII/SEC contract bowl, could be as high as $27.5 million. Mississippi State, for instance, is going to net that kind of money for the SEC for being in the Orange Bowl, which is the other contract bowl along with the Rose.

If that isn't enough, the Big XII is also losing out on peripheral bowl money. The SEC is sending 12 teams to bowls. Even leagues that most of us haven't thought are all that good this season, the B1G and the ACC, are sending 10 and 11, respectively. The Big XII is sending just 7. That basically a forfeiture of 3 bowl games--and all the revenue they could produce--before anyone's snapped a down. They're also not earning the money from a championship game, which nets most Power 5 conferences around $20 million.

Things are complicated severely by the Big XII's Tier 3 media model. Unlike the other leagues, the Big XII schools have each individually retained their own Tier 3 rights. Longhorn Network is obviously the biggest of these, and the other school's Tier 3 aren't valuable enough to do what Texas has done. However, LHN hasn't been a financial success, and in many ways it can be regarded as an early wrong guess about the future of college football on television. LHN has netted Texas athletics about $4 million annually (the figure is closer to $8 million for all of UT, but the money is split 50/50 between the AD and the rest of the university). The SEC Network package has netted each school nearly $30 million. Financially, it would make more sense to get rid of LHN and create a Big XII network, adding schools to add inventory.

Things are going to have to change in Big XII country. At the very least, they'll have to get rid of the chance for co-champions with no tie-breaker. The other leagues can't really put up with that. You can't ask those leagues to let your teams into the playoff when leagues like the SEC or B1G have one champ for 14 teams, and the Big XII has 1 champ for every 5 teams. It's just a non-starter.
Posted by betweenthebara
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:10 pm to
Cincinnati. Have fun traveling there.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50162 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:10 pm to
The only place they can pull from is the AAC so that basically means Cincy, UCF, UH (never gunna happen), Memphis, ECU, or... Tulane. Pick 2 of those teams and try not to throw up in your mouth.
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
17939 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:11 pm to
I was wondering who they would look at. Poor Big XII
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50162 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

Cincinnati. Have fun traveling there.



About the same as WVU.

They should have snagged UL when they had the chance.
Posted by NaturalStateReb
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2012
1443 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

The only place they can pull from is the AAC so that basically means Cincy, UCF, UH (never gunna happen), Memphis, ECU, or... Tulane. Pick 2 of those teams and try not to throw up in your mouth.


Everything else about the Big XII induces dry heaves, so they should fit right in.
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:12 pm to
MISSOURI STATE!
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:13 pm to
Just stopping by to at the big12 once again
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:13 pm to
If the rumors about Baylor are true, the Big 12 may need to look for even more candidates.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:14 pm to
What about BYU?
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:14 pm to
What are the rumors about Baylor?
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
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14368 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:15 pm to
Big 12 board
Posted by johnzorback
Member since Apr 2012
4122 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:16 pm to
I just think it's funny the big 12 commissioner seemed dumbfounded that not having a championship game could hurt the chances of being in the playoff.

It's almost like the big 12 expected credit for not doing anything.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:16 pm to
Big 12 really screwed up by not adding Louisville.

Their best bets now would be Cincy, Memphis or possibly BYU as a football only member.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79936 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:17 pm to
What rumors about Baylor?

They're not AAU, so that eliminates the Big Ten

They're a baptist school so that eliminates the PAC 12

They are whiny bitches so that eliminates the ACC

Their stadium has less than 50,000 seats.so that eliminates the SEC
Posted by Montezuma
Member since Apr 2013
3629 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:18 pm to
No SDSU? But, but, but, our women....


Posted by Tennessee Jed
Mr. SEC Rant
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:18 pm to
Some source in Nashville was reporting that the two teams were Cincinnati and Memphis. Memphis would be a strong addition from a basketball standpoint; their football program still has a long way to go.

If their AD ever decided to commit themselves to football, watch out.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 1:20 pm
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

If the rumors about Baylor are true, the Big 12 may need to look for even more candidates.



Go on...
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50162 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

If the rumors about Baylor are true, the Big 12 may need to look for even more candidates.



Whatever rumors you made up are pointless. No conference would take BU. They have such a tiny following and don't bring the academic prestige like Vandy, Stanford, Rice, and other private schools do.
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
17939 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:18 pm to
But they run Texas
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