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re: Is Sims a better QB than McCarron?
Posted on 12/16/14 at 4:38 am to crimsonsaint
Posted on 12/16/14 at 4:38 am to crimsonsaint
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Clearly you are. Shall I list for you all of the freshmen and sophomores that have started for Saban?
What does Saban playing freshman and sophomores have to do with him being a very loyal-type coach who caters to seniority over youth?
Again, are you new to Saban?
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 4:21 pm to Cobrasize
For the love of God, ITS KIFFIN
Posted on 12/18/14 at 11:00 pm to crimsonsaint
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AJ didn't seem to make those mistakes.
Sure he did.
Posted on 1/3/15 at 7:53 am to spacewrangler
Bump. I said that I would address this question after the national championship game.
Who is the better qb? I'm not sure. There seems to be so many aspects of being a qb. Leadership would go to Blake by a mile. Overall athletic ability and ability to extend plays also goes to Blake. Blake also throws a better deep ball.
Yet, if we were playing in the title and I had to choose just one qb to lead us on the field, I would choose AJ. AJ is a total douche as a person, not the greatest leader, but he has a certain hyper focus during title games that is unmet by any of the QBs in the CNS era. AJ faced one of the best cfb defenses of the modern era as a RS sophomore and had his best game all year. The next year at ND he also played out of his mind.
It isn't about the W/L result from the title so much as how the qb played in the game. Had Blake simply avoided the turnovers during the game, he would rank above AJ as the overall better qb. The reality is that had Blake avoided the turnovers we wouldn't still be a overanalyzing this game.
Blake Sims QBR against tOSU: 25.8
AJ QBR in 21-0: 70.3
AJ QBR against ND: 93.3
If we are talking about the guy that I'd like to sit down and have a beer with, or the guy that I would want to date my sister, give me Blake Sims. If we are talking about a regular season game, give me Sims or AJ. If we are talking about the title, give me AJ.
Who is the better qb? I'm not sure. There seems to be so many aspects of being a qb. Leadership would go to Blake by a mile. Overall athletic ability and ability to extend plays also goes to Blake. Blake also throws a better deep ball.
Yet, if we were playing in the title and I had to choose just one qb to lead us on the field, I would choose AJ. AJ is a total douche as a person, not the greatest leader, but he has a certain hyper focus during title games that is unmet by any of the QBs in the CNS era. AJ faced one of the best cfb defenses of the modern era as a RS sophomore and had his best game all year. The next year at ND he also played out of his mind.
It isn't about the W/L result from the title so much as how the qb played in the game. Had Blake simply avoided the turnovers during the game, he would rank above AJ as the overall better qb. The reality is that had Blake avoided the turnovers we wouldn't still be a overanalyzing this game.
Blake Sims QBR against tOSU: 25.8
AJ QBR in 21-0: 70.3
AJ QBR against ND: 93.3
If we are talking about the guy that I'd like to sit down and have a beer with, or the guy that I would want to date my sister, give me Blake Sims. If we are talking about a regular season game, give me Sims or AJ. If we are talking about the title, give me AJ.
Posted on 1/3/15 at 9:27 am to chattabama
I felt like Blake had a very similar game to the one AJ had in last year's Sugar Bowl.
Posted on 1/3/15 at 9:28 am to FairhopeTider
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I felt like Blake had a very similar game to the one AJ had in last year's Sugar Bowl.
Pretty much. But when the actual championship was on the line, AJ was clutch. In other games, hit or miss.
Posted on 1/3/15 at 9:48 am to chattabama
I'm not going to disagree with you but AJ also struggled somewhat against UGA in the SECCG. AJ had the luxury of being able to lean on a strong running game and had good defenses to back him up.
Its really neither here nor there and at the end of the day, AJ has two titles. Hard to dispute it at this point.
Its really neither here nor there and at the end of the day, AJ has two titles. Hard to dispute it at this point.
Posted on 1/3/15 at 9:55 am to FairhopeTider
Even with AJ's struggles in the SECCG he still had a QBR of almost ten points more than Blake's in this game. AJ threw one INT to Blake's three INTs
Again, Blake's stats as far as yardage and TDs were good enough to win. The INT stat is what sticks out as the ultimate factor between a win and a loss. Had Blake just threw the ball away or found a check down receiver Alabama would still be in the title hunt.
Again, Blake's stats as far as yardage and TDs were good enough to win. The INT stat is what sticks out as the ultimate factor between a win and a loss. Had Blake just threw the ball away or found a check down receiver Alabama would still be in the title hunt.
Posted on 1/3/15 at 4:52 pm to chattabama
AJ also would spread the wealth around too. Something Sims could not(would not) do.
Posted on 1/3/15 at 5:02 pm to homietate
Very true. Bracketing would not have been nearly as effective since McCarron had more than one favorite receiver. Although sometimes he would become a little dependent on Norwood (first INT of the Sooner Bowl comes to mind)
Posted on 1/4/15 at 8:05 am to chattabama
I was gonna bump this but didn't want to be an arse. But yeah, AJ was better than Blake. Not even close.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 8:48 am to crimsonsaint
AJ in his last year with more leadership and talent did less. AJ also had two terrible last games.
So in short? Shut the frick up.
I'm guessing you're one of those clowns who threatened him.
So in short? Shut the frick up.
I'm guessing you're one of those clowns who threatened him.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 9:09 am to crimsonsaint
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AJ was better than Blake. Not even close.
This. If Sims ran the read better, it would be a closer decision, but he was pretty bad at it.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 9:33 am to chattabama
I'm saying AJ was better but I'd love to see what Sims could've done if he would have had McCarron's experience. He did awfully damn good for a 1st year starter that got almost no real pt.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:19 pm to 615tider
I wonder the same thing too. Especially since it seemed like Blake produced better team chemistry. Hard to pick between the two. Sims was good at saving plays and running the ball himself, and AJ was better at not making mental errors and controlling the offense. I'll say this, Sims was the better QB for the team we had this year.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 2:00 pm to ConnorTide
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I wonder the same thing too. Especially since it seemed like Blake produced better team chemistry. Hard to pick between the two. Sims was good at saving plays and running the ball himself, and AJ was better at not making mental errors and controlling the offense. I'll say this, Sims was the better QB for the team we had this year.
I'd say that this is a very fair assessment.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 5:34 pm to YStar
frick off bitch. I stated my opinion in this thread just like everyone else. I don't give a frick if you like it or not.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 5:53 pm to YStar
quote:Are you comparing a Nussmeier led offense to a Kiffin offense?
AJ in his last year with more leadership and talent did less. AJ also had two terrible last games.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 7:00 pm to YStar
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AJ also had two terrible last games.
Yeah dude 277 yards and 3 tds on the road at Auburn is terrible. Clown.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 7:52 pm to spacewrangler
AJ would have won a Heisman if Kiffin had showed up a year earlier!
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