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Posted on 12/14/14 at 5:30 am to YStar
This is the thread that keeps on giving. Every few days, when i need a good belly laugh, i check it. Of course, then i weep, but the laugh is nice.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 7:20 am to Bamaman54
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This years defense is better than last years, as is the o-line. RBs are the same.
Well you've compared only AJ's third year with Blake's first. I wonder why you forgot to take into consideration his first two seasons?
You're not being bias in any way.
BTW...
- This year our defense started out much worse, it just GREW to be better because our team chemistry was off the charts and the kids bought in (something a defense which started much better last year and got worse couldn't do due to terrible leadership).
- AJ in his first two years of being a starter, had one of the best offensive lines in history, one of our best RB duo's in history, one of our best defenses in history, etc, etc...
My point?
You can continue to ignore the facts and pick select criteria while ignoring other very important details; it still won't change the facts.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:37 pm to YStar
McCarron's best receiver in 2011 was Marquise Maze. Last years team had terrible leadership? Our defense may have gotten a little worse because we lost our best safety halfway through the season and our best corner was suspended for part of it. The '11 and '12 rbs and o-line were off the charts. No disagreement there, I thought you were just talking about 2013 and 2014. IMO, AJ's best season was 2012, where he threw 30 touchdowns and three interceptions with Nuss as his OC. That's an insane TD-INT ratio. And if you remember, he didn't throw his first interception until the team's 10th game that year. Imagine if he had Kiffin. Also, you have to take into consideration the fact that Cooper was hurt for a good part of last year, and was just a freshman in 2012. Amari is a different player this year than he was in his first two years and is being utilized to perfection by a great OC, unlike the terrible one we had for the past two years.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:48 pm to Bamaman54
Well last year AJ was supposed to be the leader but he spent most of the season in a pissing contest with the best player on the offense.
If you are gonna say last year's team didn't have leadership, the blame goes to #10.
If you are gonna say last year's team didn't have leadership, the blame goes to #10.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 1:00 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
I didn't say last year's teams didn't have leadership. The poster above me said that. Learn to read.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 1:03 pm to Bamaman54
I was just replying to you because you were the last post in the thread and I'm on a phone. Don't get your panties twisted.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 1:08 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
Misunderstanding. My apologies.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 2:03 pm to Bamaman54
yes, sims is better ... he can run the ball ... both benefit from either a standout running game or a standout wr/oc pairing ...
Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:44 am to tiderider
My philosophy about leadership is pretty simple: if they aren't following, you aren't leading. The QB has to lead the offense, and really the entire team. For whatever reason, the leadership at that position appears to be significantly better this year than last year. The question wasn't who is a better passer. The question is who is the better QB. Like a lot of fans, I was disappointed at how last year ended up in that regard. And I don't have any inside knowledge about a pissing match between McCarron and anyone else. If you're going to count 2011 and 2012, it's hard to say McCarron did less of a job than Sims. But, IMO, if we are just looking at 2014 vs. 2013, Sims wins that comparison hands down.
One of the most amazing things to me was the attitude of Sims toward Coker. Everyone was handing the job to Coker before he got here...especially after the spring game...and yet Sims never failed to be anything but 100% positive and supportive of Coker. And that's what strong leadership looks like.
One of the most amazing things to me was the attitude of Sims toward Coker. Everyone was handing the job to Coker before he got here...especially after the spring game...and yet Sims never failed to be anything but 100% positive and supportive of Coker. And that's what strong leadership looks like.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 1:30 am to BamaGradinTn
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The question wasn't who is a better passer. The question is who is the better QB.
I even think Sims is the better passer. This year we weren't overthrowing deep pass after deep pass.
A lot of Sims detractors never gave him credit for how well he puts that deep ball out there. These guys don't even have to adjust, it just falls right to them.
If AJ could throw a deep ball like that he have another 1000 yards
AJ was good at managing games and he even shocked us a couple times and went out and won them. This year Sims has been asked to go out and win us games and he has. Both have been great for Alabama, but Sims for me has been more impressive.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 1:39 am to YStar
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I even think Sims is the better passer. This year we weren't overthrowing deep pass after deep pass.
I can't argue. And how many people in April would have said that Blake Sims would have had a better touch on the long ball than any QB in the Saban era?
Troll job of the year by Kiffin...had the whole country believing that Blake Sims was a lousy passer.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:38 am to BamaGradinTn
To be fair. Blake had 4 years in the program before starting, where as AJ was thrown in to the fire much earlier. So comparing Blakes "first year" and AJs first year is not really fair.
I love that we are even having this stupid argument. I love both guys for being tough enough to lead the Tide.
I love that we are even having this stupid argument. I love both guys for being tough enough to lead the Tide.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:33 am to LukeSidewalker
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So comparing Blakes "first year" and AJs first year is not really fair.
Actually, one might argue that it is very fair. Blake's true freshman year was AJ's redshirt freshman year. Granted, AJ had one year "in the system", but both were on campus at the same time and neither had taken a snap in a college football game...although AJ had won the backup job by the Texas game and would have had his redshirt pulled if McElroy had gone down. AJ got the job. AJ had the backup job in 2010, not Sims, and won the starting job in 2011. Many people were wondering if a different Sims would get the job. Not sure if Blake even got a look.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:31 am to YStar
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Blake's upside is much higher than AJ.
If so why did Blake ride the pine for four years?
Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:46 am to crimsonsaint
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If so why did Blake ride the pine for four years?
Probably the same reason AJ road the pine for 2 years before starting?
Posted on 12/15/14 at 1:44 pm to Funky Tide 8
Sims rode the pine because there was a better QB on the roster. Which is my point.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:19 pm to crimsonsaint
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Sims rode the pine because there was a better QB on the roster. Which is my point.
and my point is that in college, especially at the QB position, the better player is often second string.
Posted on 12/15/14 at 3:32 pm to crimsonsaint
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Sims rode the pine because there was a better QB on the roster. Which is my point.
Lol, new to Saban? Why did Christion Jones still return punts after messing up so many?
Saban believes strongly in honoring seniority and Blake's freshman year, AJ was already taking snaps as the heir to the "throne".
Posted on 12/15/14 at 10:30 pm to YStar
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Lol, new to Saban?
Saban believes strongly in honoring seniority
Clearly you are. Shall I list for you all of the freshmen and sophomores that have started for Saban?
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