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ACC vs SEC in Sugar, B1G vs PAC in Rose. TCU and BU get left out with no CCG

Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:07 pm
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:07 pm
0 loss
ACC : 13 games : Florida State (13-0, 8-0) : DONE, beat Georgia Tech (10-3, 6-2) 37-35 in ACC CCG = should be in playoff

1 loss
B 12 : 12 games : TCU (11-1, 8-1) : DONE, beat Iowa State (2-10, 0-9) 55-3
B 12 : 12 games : Baylor (11-1, 8-1) : DONE, beat Kansas State (9-3, 7-2) 38-27
B1G : 13 games : Ohio State (12-1, 8-0) : DONE, beat Wisconsin (10-3, 7-1) in B1G CCG 59-0
PAC : 13 games : Oregon (12-1, 8-1) : DONE, beat Arizona (10-3, 7-2) in PAC CCG 51-13 = should be in playoff
SEC : 13 games : Alabama (12-1, 7-1) : DONE, beat Missouri (10-3, 7-1) in SEC CCG 42-13 = should be in playoff

2 loss
B1G : 12 games : Michigan State (10-2, 7-1) : DONE, no help from games this weekend
SEC : 12 games : Mississippi State (10-2, 6-2) : DONE, no help from games this weekend


EDIT : here are the non conference games of the 6 schools : BOLD schools indicate FCS school, underline indicates Power 5 school
(0) Baylor : SMU (1-11) + Northwestern State (6-6) + Buffalo (5-6)
(1) TCU : Samford (7-4) + Minnesota (8-4) + SMU (1-11)
(1) Oregon : South Dakota (2-10) + Michigan State (10-2) + Wyoming (4-8)
(1) Ohio State : Navy (6-5) + Virginia Tech (6-6) + Kent State (2-9) + Cincinnati (9-3)
(1) Alabama : West Virginia (7-5) + Florida Atlantic (3-9) + Southern Mississippi (3-9) + Western Carolina (7-5)
(3) Florida State : Oklahoma State (6-6) + The Citadel (5-7)+ Notre Dame (7-5) + Florida (6-5)

Kent State @ Buffalo was cancelled for snow, Idaho @ Florida cancelled for rain, and Navy still has yet to play Army



Teams playing 13th game and opponent in 13th game
#1 Alabama beat #16 Missouri (10-2) 42-13
#2 Oregon beat #7 Arizona (10-2) 51-13
#4 Florida State beat #11 Georgia Tech (10-2) 37-35
#5 Ohio State beat #13 Wisconsin (10-2) 59-0
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 8:53 am
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:23 pm to
They are going to screw TCU and Baylor. U can see the ESPN guys working it hard already.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79889 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:26 pm to
They aren't screwing anyone.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15108 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:27 pm to
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They are going to screw TCU and Baylor.

Someone is getting screwed regardless.
Posted by Diddles
LA
Member since Apr 2013
6981 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:28 pm to
The committee hasn't really listened to ESPN this year. I hope that holds up
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28260 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:30 pm to
quote:

Someone is getting screwed regardless.


I agree. This is a perfect year to have an 8 team playoff. I believe whoever is 5 and 6 could win it all this year. If it were an 8 team playoff, 9 and 10 may have a bitch, but I don't see either team being a legit NC contender.
Posted by Diddles
LA
Member since Apr 2013
6981 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:33 pm to
9 or 10 would have no room to bitch. It should be 8 teams. Hopefully that happens next year
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28260 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:35 pm to
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9 or 10 would have no room to bitch.


You could have a 20 team playoff, and a few teams left out would have a legit bitch, IMO. It will always be that way. I just think that this year any one of 6 teams could get hot and win the whole thing. I don't really see more than 6, possibly 7 at the most, having a real shot of winning it all.
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:35 pm to
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They are going to screw TCU and Baylor. U can see the ESPN guys working it hard already.


It's not screwing though, OSU deserves the 4th spot.

Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28260 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:43 pm to
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It's not screwing though, OSU deserves the 4th spot.


Why do you say that? Their SOS was behind TCU's and they lost to a 6-6 Va. Tech team on their own field. TCU lost by a few points to Baylor. TCU went on the road and beat W. Va.. What was OSU's best OOC win?
This post was edited on 12/6/14 at 11:44 pm
Posted by Chawboy
Texas
Member since Feb 2013
961 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:45 pm to
But @ Michigan State was a better win than TCU has, & Ohio State has an extra win.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15108 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:48 pm to
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Their SOS was behind TCU's

Actually their SOS is 45th, while TCU's is 54th and Baylor's is 59th.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28260 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:51 pm to
Again, you are cherry picking. Look at the entire body of work. OSU does not have a much better W than TCU. OSU has a much worse loss than TCU. Who do you think played a tougher conference schedule? (in other words, who has the strongest conference) I have been hearing all year that the Big 10 is a shite conference. I agree. My feelings haven't changed about that conference because OSU beat the shite out of Wisky today.
This post was edited on 12/6/14 at 11:54 pm
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28260 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:53 pm to
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Actually their SOS is 45th, while TCU's is 54th and Baylor's is 59th.


I am not sure where you are seeing that. I am getting my numbers here.

LINK
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15108 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:55 pm to
OSU played 13 games as opposed to the 12 that TCU played. According to the Big 12 bylaws, Baylor is the true Big 12 champ, and OSU has the tougher overall strength of schedule 45 to 54 according to ESPN just now.
This post was edited on 12/6/14 at 11:56 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79889 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:56 pm to
Who played a tougher conference schedule?

11-1
9-3
8-4
7-5
6-6
6-6
4-8
3-9
2-10

vs.

10-2
10-3
8-4
7-5
7-5
6-6
6-6
5-7
4-8
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105362 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:56 pm to
I will be honest, I don't want TCU or Baylor in it since the commissioner didn't follow bylaws and name one winner (Baylor). I think it would be glorious to come up empty trying to play the odds offering two champions. Plus they have no League Title game. Screw the Big 12.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15108 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:57 pm to
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I am not sure where you are seeing that. I am getting my numbers here.

That was last updated yesterday, so it doesn't include today's games.
This post was edited on 12/6/14 at 11:58 pm
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28260 posts
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:58 pm to
WTF is that? How many of those records are mid-major's. How many of those records are for Div II schools? That's about as ignorant as your "well this team lost this week and that team lost that week" argument.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79889 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:03 am to
None for division 2 schools
All of Baylors nonconference opponents were mid majors
Both TCU and Baylor played the worst team in FBS
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