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Who agrees with the recent CFP rankings?
Posted on 12/3/14 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 12/3/14 at 4:14 pm
Trying to get a rough estimate of who agrees and who disagrees. More importantly, do you agree with the teams thats are in the top four and only disagree with the rankings of those teams?
Here's the CFP rankings:
1. Alabama
2. Oregon
3. TCU
4. FSU
Here's the computer rankings:
1. Alabama
2. FSU
3. Oregon
4. TCU
Here's supposedly a composite most similar to the BCS:
1. Alabama
2. Oregon
3. TCU
4. Ohio State
But I have no idea how accurate those are.
Here's the CFP rankings:
1. Alabama
2. Oregon
3. TCU
4. FSU
Here's the computer rankings:
1. Alabama
2. FSU
3. Oregon
4. TCU
Here's supposedly a composite most similar to the BCS:
1. Alabama
2. Oregon
3. TCU
4. Ohio State
But I have no idea how accurate those are.
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 4:15 pm to Kcoyote
The Massey Composite
1. Alabama
2. Oregon
3. TCU
4. Ohio State
5. Florida State
I'd take it over any humans or computers, but of course that would freak everybody out even more. COMPUTERS HATE THE NOLES!
1. Alabama
2. Oregon
3. TCU
4. Ohio State
5. Florida State
I'd take it over any humans or computers, but of course that would freak everybody out even more. COMPUTERS HATE THE NOLES!
Posted on 12/3/14 at 4:20 pm to Kcoyote
I kinda think it is crazy that they value Baylor's loss to West Virginia over the TCU-Baylor head to head results
Sure, it was a way worse loss, but head-to-heads are always considered a deficit tie breaker.
The Big 12 calling them co-champions isn't helping either.
Sure, it was a way worse loss, but head-to-heads are always considered a deficit tie breaker.
The Big 12 calling them co-champions isn't helping either.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 4:21 pm to SummerOfGeorge
after #1, i don't care how the rest of 'em are ranked.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 4:22 pm to SammyTiger
The Big 12 is a joke. They schedule three bye weeks while most other conferences schedule two JUST so they can put their last row of games during the conference championship weekend of all the other conferences. Make it look like they're playing just as many games.
It's ridiculous that they get more bye weeks and don't have to play 13 games.
It's ridiculous that they get more bye weeks and don't have to play 13 games.
This post was edited on 12/3/14 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 12/3/14 at 4:24 pm to Kcoyote
Until FSU gets beat, they should be #1.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 4:27 pm to SammyTiger
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Who agrees with the recent CFP rankings? I kinda think it is crazy that they value Baylor's loss to West Virginia over the TCU-Baylor head to head results
Sure, it was a way worse loss, but head-to-heads are always considered a deficit tie breaker.
The Big 12 calling them co-champions isn't helping either.
I hate agreeing with Sammy.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 4:30 pm to Kcoyote
To be fair they play 9 conference games while our teams only play 8 and 70% of the big 12 teams are pretty solid. They aren't the SEC, but they definitely aren't a joke.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 4:31 pm to Kcoyote
I would have
FSU
Oregon or Bama
TCU or Baylor
FSU
Oregon or Bama
TCU or Baylor
Posted on 12/3/14 at 4:32 pm to Kcoyote
I'd put fsu at 5.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 4:32 pm to Kcoyote
I'm ok with it.
Somebody has to be 5th, etc.
Should have 2 good semifinals.
At some level, I think 5 or 6 or 7 might could win 2 games, but I'm not a big advocate of playoffs.
The meaning of every week is very unique to CFB. I'll watch the playoff, but I have only attended one of AU's BCS bowls bc of my kids school conflicts. Now, you need to arrange 2 trips, etc.
Maybe playing the first round on campus would be something to tweak down the road- especially if they go to 8 teams, etc.
Somebody has to be 5th, etc.
Should have 2 good semifinals.
At some level, I think 5 or 6 or 7 might could win 2 games, but I'm not a big advocate of playoffs.
The meaning of every week is very unique to CFB. I'll watch the playoff, but I have only attended one of AU's BCS bowls bc of my kids school conflicts. Now, you need to arrange 2 trips, etc.
Maybe playing the first round on campus would be something to tweak down the road- especially if they go to 8 teams, etc.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 4:35 pm to SammyTiger
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I kinda think it is crazy that they value Baylor's loss to West Virginia over the TCU-Baylor head to head results
This.
MS State over Ole Miss too is weird now.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 4:50 pm to LOCO5150
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MS State over Ole Miss too is weird now.
there isn't a tie in that case
Miss state is 10-2 and Ole Miss is 9-3
Baylor and TCU are both 10-1
I assume the Committee is expecting Baylor to Lose to Kansas St, but they don't i wouldn't be surprised to see a possible Switch.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 5:03 pm to Dawgsontop34
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70% of the big 12 teams are pretty solid
I disagree with that
I think it would be hard to argue that more than 4 teams are really good.
TCU, Baylor, KSU and Oklahoma. The rest are mediocre to bad.
Minnesota, and Auburn are the highlights of their OOC schedules, and they are 1-1 against those two teams.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 5:06 pm to Kcoyote
Baylor should be ahead of TCU. Anyone who isn't alarmed by the injustice there, really doesn't get the dangerous precedent the committee is setting for the future.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 5:13 pm to SammyTiger
Baylor played NOBODY in their OOC schedule.
Head 2 head is only one criteria.
TCU has strength of schedule, better loss.
The committee is sending a message, don't play shyty out of conference schedules.
So if Ohio State played Baylor's OOC schedule they would be fourth in the poll now right ? So why reward Baylor when they had 2 years to rework their schedule ?
Baylor beats TCU at home with 2 B.S. calls, meaning on a neutral site TCU would be favored, hence they are the better team.
Screw a team that schedules crap OOC schedules.
Head 2 head is only one criteria.
TCU has strength of schedule, better loss.
The committee is sending a message, don't play shyty out of conference schedules.
So if Ohio State played Baylor's OOC schedule they would be fourth in the poll now right ? So why reward Baylor when they had 2 years to rework their schedule ?
Baylor beats TCU at home with 2 B.S. calls, meaning on a neutral site TCU would be favored, hence they are the better team.
Screw a team that schedules crap OOC schedules.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 5:15 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
To be fair, outside of our marquis game, Alabama and most of the SEC has shite OOC schedules.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 5:20 pm to Kcoyote
I like the committee's rankings a lot better than past AP, Coaches' and Harris polls.
Reason: they don't seem to just be adding up losses but actually looking at schedules and how impressive performances were in actual games in addition to simply who won.
In the Baylor vs TCU debate, I can see the logic for both sides but, to my mind, there's nothing to discuss until Baylor may beat Kansas St convincingly.
Ohio St has means to move up by beating Wisconsin as well.
FSU only has themselves to blame for the low seeding. If they would have not barely sputtered across the finish line against at least one or two mediocre opponents like Florida, Oklahoma St, Notre Dame, Boston College and Miami they'd be seeded first.
I can see the people who argue that they haven't lost but it does seem a positive instead of negative that the committee is considering how games are actually being played rather than a quick glance at the final score.
I would also bet that if FSU jumps all over Georgia Tech you'll see them move higher.
They could well finish like that Alabama team from 1992 that barely won ugly games all season but stepped it up in the final 2 games. I think committee has been waiting for some sign of this the past few weeks but they keep just barely squeaking by some very average teams.
Reason: they don't seem to just be adding up losses but actually looking at schedules and how impressive performances were in actual games in addition to simply who won.
In the Baylor vs TCU debate, I can see the logic for both sides but, to my mind, there's nothing to discuss until Baylor may beat Kansas St convincingly.
Ohio St has means to move up by beating Wisconsin as well.
FSU only has themselves to blame for the low seeding. If they would have not barely sputtered across the finish line against at least one or two mediocre opponents like Florida, Oklahoma St, Notre Dame, Boston College and Miami they'd be seeded first.
I can see the people who argue that they haven't lost but it does seem a positive instead of negative that the committee is considering how games are actually being played rather than a quick glance at the final score.
I would also bet that if FSU jumps all over Georgia Tech you'll see them move higher.
They could well finish like that Alabama team from 1992 that barely won ugly games all season but stepped it up in the final 2 games. I think committee has been waiting for some sign of this the past few weeks but they keep just barely squeaking by some very average teams.
This post was edited on 12/3/14 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 12/3/14 at 5:22 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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S.E.C. Crazy
Who agrees with the recent CFP rankings?
Baylor played NOBODY in their OOC schedule.
Head 2 head is only one criteria.
TCU has strength of schedule, better loss.
TCU played Minnesota, SMU and Samford
Baylor Played SMU, Northwestern State and Buffalo
Same Record Lost the Head to Head. That isn't a good president for the committee to set. It would be like taking Bama over Florida in 2008.
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Baylor beats TCU at home with 2 B.S. calls, meaning on a neutral site TCU would be favored, hence they are the better team.
Well then they should just pick the 4 teams they think are good any be done with it. Why even take into consideration record at all.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 5:26 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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I'd put fsu at 5.
until someone actually beats them... they deserve to be in the playoff.
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