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I'm largely surprised at the response to this game
Posted on 11/28/14 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 11/28/14 at 10:37 pm
We won 6 games and we are going to a bowl. Before this season that was a pipe dream for some fans. A lot of talking heads picked us to go 3-9 again and so did a lot of Hog fans. The fact that we're bowl eligible with this schedule is a huge accomplishment in a rebuilding year.
I just can't believe some of our fans are melting down because of this game. It didn't even matter at all. I could understand it if we lost this game to make us 5-7.
I just can't believe some of our fans are melting down because of this game. It didn't even matter at all. I could understand it if we lost this game to make us 5-7.
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 10:41 pm to Stonehog
Yeah, I'm disappointed that we lost, but it doesn't change my view that this season has been a success. We got to a bowl game despite having the toughest schedule in college football with a team that went 3-9 last season.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 10:41 pm to Stonehog
I think the fact that we were up 14-3 before the wheels started to come off with the field goal time out is what is making this worse.
It seemed like we were going to have our way with them but with every drive you could see Allen getting worse and worse. That also made the eventual result of the game more agonizing to me.
It seemed like we were going to have our way with them but with every drive you could see Allen getting worse and worse. That also made the eventual result of the game more agonizing to me.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 10:41 pm to Stonehog
I don't really see how or where people are melting down. Nearly everybody has wanted Chaney gone all year, and it's not unreasonable to be mad at Bielema for refusing to pull a hurt quarterback who was throwing passes five yards past open receivers.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 10:55 pm to Hog on the Hill
Agreed. Total success. Except, I might say that auburn had a tougher schedule. They played kansas state rather than texas tech.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 11:14 pm to Stonehog
The season overall was very promising. We COULD have won several more games but we didn't, and we still exceeded expectations. We've got a bowl game and we're gonna kick arse next year. Overall, a very positive year.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 11:28 pm to Stonehog
Dude......
6-6 was nice, it was right in the middle of where pretty much almost all of our posters thought we'd be.
Howfrickinever, 6-6 was soooooo damn close to being 10-2, 9-3 at worst. That's the painful part that is bringing the frustrations back.
add in the realizations that our coach is pretty full of shite on the player safety issue, and that's going to make defending him a chore over the offseason.
add in the fact that we had really hoped we'd turned the proverbial corner and the ailments of those games we gave away came back in a hurry when Chaney couldn't adjust his gameplan. The biggest issue my circle of Hog fans have w/ Chaney is once the opposing Defense adjusts and stacks the box and sells out to stop the run and we have to rely on Brandon Allen and Chaney to preserve the lead with a abhorrent passing game, we're toast. All of that came back and brought a lot of our hopes back to Earth with a thud.
It really irks us too that a dude making $3 mil + doesn't seem to realize what us Joe Blow fans have seen and bemoaned about all season long.
As for the future, we really need to not put all of our eggs in the Ty Storey basket. I think we need a 2nd QB in this class as a safety net. Chaney's not going to develop the QB's like we need/want them to be. We're getting worried that these guys that will be extremely experienced come their Jr/Sr. years will have given all they have for not because we have a coach that refused to pull the trigger and make an upgrade in an area that is a glaring weakness because it might cause a strain w/ our best assistant coach.
Bert will clean house when and where it's needed as evidenced by sweeping out all of the defensive coaches but Shannon after last season. The only coaches I could see having some nerves about keeping their jobs would be the WR and RB coaches, and hopefully the OC.
6-6 was nice, it was right in the middle of where pretty much almost all of our posters thought we'd be.
Howfrickinever, 6-6 was soooooo damn close to being 10-2, 9-3 at worst. That's the painful part that is bringing the frustrations back.
add in the realizations that our coach is pretty full of shite on the player safety issue, and that's going to make defending him a chore over the offseason.
add in the fact that we had really hoped we'd turned the proverbial corner and the ailments of those games we gave away came back in a hurry when Chaney couldn't adjust his gameplan. The biggest issue my circle of Hog fans have w/ Chaney is once the opposing Defense adjusts and stacks the box and sells out to stop the run and we have to rely on Brandon Allen and Chaney to preserve the lead with a abhorrent passing game, we're toast. All of that came back and brought a lot of our hopes back to Earth with a thud.
It really irks us too that a dude making $3 mil + doesn't seem to realize what us Joe Blow fans have seen and bemoaned about all season long.
As for the future, we really need to not put all of our eggs in the Ty Storey basket. I think we need a 2nd QB in this class as a safety net. Chaney's not going to develop the QB's like we need/want them to be. We're getting worried that these guys that will be extremely experienced come their Jr/Sr. years will have given all they have for not because we have a coach that refused to pull the trigger and make an upgrade in an area that is a glaring weakness because it might cause a strain w/ our best assistant coach.
Bert will clean house when and where it's needed as evidenced by sweeping out all of the defensive coaches but Shannon after last season. The only coaches I could see having some nerves about keeping their jobs would be the WR and RB coaches, and hopefully the OC.
This post was edited on 11/28/14 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 11/28/14 at 11:33 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
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add in the realizations that our coach is pretty full of shite on the player safety issue, and that's going to make defending him a chore over the offseason.
BA doesn't have a life threatening condition, he wasn't being drug to the line by his linemen because he blew out his knee, he wasn't put back in the game while concussed, he has the equivalent of a big bruise...
Posted on 11/28/14 at 11:37 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
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It really irks us too that a dude making $3 mil + doesn't seem to realize what us Joe Blow fans have seen and bemoaned about all season long.
I'm not sure you can say this until he doesn't fire Chaney in the offseason.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 11:39 pm to Stonehog
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I just can't believe some of our fans are melting down because of this game. It didn't even matter at all. I could understand it if we lost this game to make us 5-7.
We would've been ranked. We lost that. Doubt we will now even if we win our bowl. I picked us at 9-3 to start the season. And we should've been. Just because some dumbass talking heads picked us worse doesn't mean shite. We shite out a great season with piss poor second half play calling. I'm no fan of BA, but at the same time, it's up to the coaches to call plays that emphasize our strengths and minimize our weaknesses. We kicked their asses, but once again got outcoached. This time by fricking Gary Pinkel. BB will build a good team, but I have never seen him do shite in game here or at Wisconsin. He's still young and hopefully will learn from his mistakes, but doesn't appear to after the shite show we put on in the second half.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 11:42 pm to DaleDenton
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BA doesn't have a life threatening condition, he wasn't being drug to the line by his linemen because he blew out his knee, he wasn't put back in the game while concussed, he has the equivalent of a big bruise...
My comments weren't Brandon Allen specific. You're also forgetting about them playing him in the last half of the season last year at 60%. He needed the experience and we surely didn't have the horses to really compete, and were in a tough spot, but Bert appears to be talking our of both sides of his mouth on this one and that's all it takes to sway public opinion.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 11:42 pm to SmackoverHawg
Just because you picked them to go 9-3 also doesn't mean anything either.
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 11:46 pm to DaleDenton
I understand BA doesn't have a disc or vertebrae issue, but a deep tissue one, but that's still very painful. Back pain is no joke, regardless of it's origin - mine is worse than labor pain sometimes. And when it's in full force & aggravated by movement, especially rotation or twisting, it can be excruciating & absolutely prohibits mobility, even arm movement. Since he doesn't have an injury that would cause serious repercussions if hit, my main concern was that it was greatly affecting his performance at a time when we needed someone in there who wasn't hurting every time he went back to pass. I feel bad for him bc I know how bad he was hurting, but it affected the entire team, particularly in the second half. ... And the absurd amount of pass plays called, even short ones, was unbelievable knowing that he was hurting like that. There's no excuse for not at least trying the other Allen ... Or calling more running plays for that matter.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 11:46 pm to TheCheshireHog
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I'm not sure you can say this until he doesn't fire Chaney in the offseason.
We shall see. I don't like firing a guy just for the sake of firing a guy. There's other options, they need to be evaluated.
That stat that was tweeted and posted about Chaney being 4-33 in 37 games as a OC in the SEC is pretty damning that the guy is over matched in this conference.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 11:48 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
You're on-point with this CV.
The frustrating thing is how many games we COULD have won this year. Granted, sometimes bad breaks happen, but at least 2 of our L's are solely on our OC.
6-6 and 8-4 is a huge difference
Since player depth is obviously an issue and will cause us some losses, we have no room for error for our coaches to shite away games as well. Anyone who thinks we weren't out coached today is a fool.
The frustrating thing is how many games we COULD have won this year. Granted, sometimes bad breaks happen, but at least 2 of our L's are solely on our OC.
6-6 and 8-4 is a huge difference
Since player depth is obviously an issue and will cause us some losses, we have no room for error for our coaches to shite away games as well. Anyone who thinks we weren't out coached today is a fool.
Posted on 11/29/14 at 12:07 am to Stonehog
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I'm largely surprised at the response to this game
At some point,, doesn't a coach have to protect a QB from himself?
What do you people think the team confidence-level will be after watching the B Allen film on this one?
Never seen anything like that. Ever.
Posted on 11/29/14 at 12:11 am to SmackoverHawg
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I picked us at 9-3 to start the season.
horseshite.
Posted on 11/29/14 at 12:30 am to Jefferson Dawg
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At some point,, doesn't a coach have to protect a QB from himself?
Absolutely & think of the actual game at hand, not so much about how bad a player wants to finish, but about what's the best shot at winning. ... Also, we do have a bowl game to play which I assume BA will get the start, & we definitely need him pain free & healthy for that if he's going to play.
Posted on 11/29/14 at 3:20 am to Arkla Missy
Third party observer here - if you pull BA and put his brother in and he throws and int all this board would be saying "Why pull him?, wth" so CBB couldn't win regardless. My take is this and those of you who have coached (doesn't matter the sport, just coached an actuall real world competition, with a good player injured) know that the kid is telling you he can go and you are stuck in a no win world if you pull him. You pull him and lose and forever is the doubt that the injured kid who could go would have won. We forget these guys are together everyday and there is no doubt in my mind that the rest of the team believed in BA being there and them winning but if he was pulled the doubt from the rest of the team begins to set in that they can win. It was the right call by CBB to allow a kid who says he can go to go! Just my take.
I was pulling for y'all today but the football gods didn't ordain it! Good luck in the bowl.
Hotty Toddy
I was pulling for y'all today but the football gods didn't ordain it! Good luck in the bowl.
Hotty Toddy
Posted on 11/29/14 at 8:54 am to Hog on the Hill
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Yeah, I'm disappointed that we lost, but it doesn't change my view that this season has been a success. We got to a bowl game despite having the toughest schedule in college football with a team that went 3-9 last season.
Cosign.
I melted in the immediacy after the game mostly because the blown 4th quarter lead brought back memories of the others, but this was undeniably a hugely successful season and a huge step in the right direction.
To say that Bert isn't building a solid foundation and has us ahead of schedule is to deny reality.
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