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Mizzou/Tennessee Onside Kicking Penalties
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:53 pm
Our seats were at mid field with a perfect view of the onside kick(s).
I can tell you with 100 percent certainty that Tennessee committed a penalty on both kicks.
1) The kicker was certainly offsides on the first kick
2) On the second kick a Tennessee player indeed caught the ball, but he caught the ball in offsides territory. The ball most certainly did not cross the line. Not even close.
I can tell you with 100 percent certainty that Tennessee committed a penalty on both kicks.
1) The kicker was certainly offsides on the first kick
2) On the second kick a Tennessee player indeed caught the ball, but he caught the ball in offsides territory. The ball most certainly did not cross the line. Not even close.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 2:54 pm
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:54 pm to mizzoukills
Yeah those that watched at home on our big screen HD TVs already knew that.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:55 pm to mizzoukills
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1) The kicker was certainly offsides on the first kick
The kicker is allowed to cross the line.
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2) On the second kick a Tennessee player indeed caught the ball, but he caught the ball in offsides territory. The ball most certainly did not cross the line. Not even close.
No one has disputed this.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:56 pm to mizzoukills
Killz, by rule the kicker is ALLOWED to have his foot over the line. The trouble is that offsides isn't reviewable but it was a bad call and understandable miss by the refs but still incorrect. The second call was correct.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:58 pm to mizzoukills
Wouldn't have mattered. Making another TD AND a 2 point conversion (again) would have been a long shot.
Game was over when DB Justin Coleman got burned twice to give up 14 points late in the 4th quarter.
Game was over when DB Justin Coleman got burned twice to give up 14 points late in the 4th quarter.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:59 pm to mizzoukills
The flag on the first kick was not for offsides it was for illegal touching which did not happen and offsides is not a reviewable penalty.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:00 pm to mizzoukills
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bullshite
Not bullshite, it's in the rulebook. Probably wouldn't have made a difference in the outcome though, if it makes you feel any better
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:02 pm to The Cajun Prince
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The flag on the first kick was not for offsides it was for illegal touching which did not happen and offsides is not a reviewable penalty.
The first flag thrown on the play was for offside.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:05 pm to mizzoukills
You beat us fair and square and it was clear hope was dead after the interception, but it was still a bad call. Mizzou dominated, but it was a bad call. That happens, though, and it wouldn't have mattered if Tennessee had taken advantage of their opportunities. They didn't.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:14 pm to pvilleguru
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The first flag thrown on the play was for offside.
Yes! but not for the kicker being offside, the guy is right about that, the kicker technically can't be offsides.
Neither kick looked like it went 10 yards before being touched by the kicking team.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:19 pm to mizzoukills
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I can tell you with 100 percent certainty that Tennessee committed a penalty on both kicks.
On the first kick Tennessee was not offsides and there was no illegal touching. Officials blew that one.
Second kick (which UT shouldn't have needed had the officials not blown the first play) was obviously illegal touching.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:21 pm to Jagd Tiger
The flag was thrown for illegal touching, thats what the ref called, it was reviewed and determined that a Missouri player touched it first and Tennessee recovered. Then he said but we must kick over because Tennessee was offsides, which is not a reviewable play. But the flag was thrown and explained as illegal touching
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:26 pm to elposter
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On the first kick Tennessee was not offsides and there was no illegal touching. Officials blew that one.
Second kick (which UT shouldn't have needed had the officials not blown the first play) was obviously illegal touching.
This
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:29 pm to The Cajun Prince
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illegal touching
Really? Is this what it's actually called?
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:30 pm to mizzoukills
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1) The kicker was certainly offsides on the first kick
Offside occurs when one or more players of the kicking team are not behind
their restraining line when the ball is legally free-kicked (Exception: The kicker
and holder are not offside when they are beyond their restraining line) (Rule
6-1-2).
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2) On the second kick a Tennessee player indeed caught the ball, but he caught the ball in offsides territory. The ball most certainly did not cross the line. Not even close.
Offsides territory would be behind the line of scrimmage. However, the Vols didn't allow the ball to travel 10 yards before touching, so that penalty call was indeed legit.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:31 pm to LOCO5150
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Really? Is this what it's actually called?
Yes, although it's a personal foul at Penn State.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:33 pm to LOCO5150
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Really? Is this what it's actually called?
Yep.
On a side note: not sure why Killz is bringing this one up. Y'all won and none of us have made a deal of it. The first one was a bad call but even if we'd gotten it back y'all likely still would've won. Your DL just overwhelmed our OL (rebuilt/brand new for yet another game - yay!) all game. But hell even the injuries to our center and yet another forced OL remix didn't matter much - maybe one or two plays but that's it. Your entire DL was in our backfield the second the ball was snapped. And we just don't have any talent on OL.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:38 pm to The Cajun Prince
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Then he said but we must kick over because Tennessee was offsides, which is not a reviewable play
A flag was thrown for offside. The ref thought that because of the illegal touching that he didn't need to mention the offside on the initial call. Once the replay overturned the illegal touching, then the offside penalty came into play. They didn't use the video to determine the offside.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:42 pm to pvilleguru
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A flag was thrown for offside. The ref thought that because of the illegal touching that he didn't need to mention the offside on the initial call. Once the replay overturned the illegal touching, then the offside penalty came into play. They didn't use the video to determine the offside.
Where was the offsides on the first onside kick? Stop pretending like you know what the frick you're talking about.
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