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How is bowl placement decided this year?
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:29 am
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:29 am
I know how the playoff committee works as far as the playoff teams and know that the actual committee ranks a top-25 every week. But, after the playoff teams are decided, what happens then? What about all of the teams eligible for bowls that are not in the committee's top 25? Probably a stupid question, but I was still wondering since we still have so many other polls and decisions to make.
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:30 am to Mister Tee
SEC office decides.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:33 am to Mister Tee
The non play-off bowls that are in the playoff rotation will be placed based on the committee's rankings and conference tie-ins.
That is the Cotton, Fiesta, Orange, and Peach this year.
When not a playoff game, the Rose gets the best Big Ten and Pac-12 teams. The Sugar gets the same for the SEC and Big 12. The Orange gets the best ACC. The Cotton, Fiesta, and Peach have no ties.
The highest-ranked mid-major is guaranteed a spot in one of those last three bowls.
All other bowls will be picked as usual after that.
That is the Cotton, Fiesta, Orange, and Peach this year.
When not a playoff game, the Rose gets the best Big Ten and Pac-12 teams. The Sugar gets the same for the SEC and Big 12. The Orange gets the best ACC. The Cotton, Fiesta, and Peach have no ties.
The highest-ranked mid-major is guaranteed a spot in one of those last three bowls.
All other bowls will be picked as usual after that.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 10:35 am
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:39 am to elposter
Got it.
What other polls will they use then for everyone else. I should know this, but it seems like it changes every year. We don't use the coach's poll in deciding that any longer, do we.
What other polls will they use then for everyone else. I should know this, but it seems like it changes every year. We don't use the coach's poll in deciding that any longer, do we.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 10:42 am
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:46 am to Mister Tee
Ranking doesn't really matter. Its conference ranking.
#1 goes to Sugar
#2 goes to Orange
#3 goes to Citrus
The next ones are a little different and are up to the Bowl game themselves to pick.
Next is the Outback Bowl and they can pick the SEC #4-#9, this is were bigger name programs benefit cause they will get picked sooner for better bowls.
#1 goes to Sugar
#2 goes to Orange
#3 goes to Citrus
The next ones are a little different and are up to the Bowl game themselves to pick.
Next is the Outback Bowl and they can pick the SEC #4-#9, this is were bigger name programs benefit cause they will get picked sooner for better bowls.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 10:48 am
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:49 am to Mister Tee
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What other polls will they use then for everyone else.
None, the bowls have ties in with the conferences as and get the teams based on where they finished in conference play. There could be some trading to avoid teams going to the same bowl in consecutive years.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:50 am to elposter
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All other bowls will be picked as usual after that.
Uh, no.
Citrus gets first pick after the committee selections.
Music City, Belk, Houston, Liberty, TaxSlayer, Outback - are all now on the same level and are picked by the SEC office.
Compass gets an SEC team if available after all of that.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:57 am to anc
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Music City, Belk, Houston, Liberty, TaxSlayer, Outback - are all now on the same level and are picked by the SEC office.
Man, how the Outback has fallen...
Posted on 11/24/14 at 10:57 am to WPBTiger
Well that's two different answers so far in the thread. Is it is up to the superior bowl (in the bowl pecking order) to have their own pick of WHO THEY want between the playoff leftovers (like choosing Arkansas over Auburn because they think it would be better for their own bowl game). Or, do they have tie-in rules that MAKE them choose say, Auburn over Arkansas BECAUSE Auburn is ranked higher.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:05 am to Mister Tee
Well, that's 3 different answers now since someone mentioned that the SEC office decides.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:31 am to Mister Tee
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Well, that's 3 different answers now since someone mentioned that the SEC office decides
Just read up on it. So the playoff rotation bowls are selected based on committee rankings and conference affiliations. After that, for the SEC, the Citrus bowl picks who they want from the SEC. And then the Outback, Belk, Liberty, Music City, Texas and Taxslayer bowls are all picked by the SEC office. They are now considered "equal" I guess.
After that the Birmingham Bowl picks anyone left and then the Independence Bowl gets last pick.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:33 am to GIbson05
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#1 goes to Sugar
#2 goes to Orange
#3 goes to Citrus
UGA (the current #3) has also projected to the Peach so it's pretty much up in the air at this point as to what the frick is going to happen as far as bowl order is concerned
ETA: I'd love to go to Dallas one day. Apparently it's one of if not the best run bowl out there.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 11:37 am
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:55 am to elposter
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are all picked by the SEC office
I believe you, but that doesn't seem right to me somehow. It doesn't seem very democratic.
What if a school doesn't want to go to a particular bowl for some reason? In the past, at least the school decided. I'm pretty sure I've heard of some schools rejecting an invite in the past.
Hence the term "invite."
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:56 am to elposter
Thanks for looking that up by the way. Been BUSY at work today.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 12:05 pm to Mister Tee
No problem. Sounds like there will be conversations between SEC office, the schools and the bowls to try and make everyone relatively happy, avoid teams going to same bowl too many times/consecutively, avoid rematches, etc.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 12:08 pm to tylerdurden24
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UGA (the current #3) has also projected to the Peach so it's pretty much up in the air at this point as to what the frick is going to happen as far as bowl order is concerned
Peach is a "Committee selected bowl." Very likely UGA heads there and the Citrus gets a pick between Ole Miss and Missouri.
Here's how I see it going down:
Committee Placement
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Alabama to the Sugar
Mississippi State to the Sugar (as #4), Rose (if FSU or Oregon slip), Orange (if slip to #5) or Peach (if UGA wins SEC Championship game and loss to Ole Miss)
Georgia to the Orange (SEC Champion) or Peach (non-SEC Champion
Citrus Bowl
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selects Missouri
SEC Group Bowls
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Texas: Texas A&M/LSU winner
Belk: South Carolina
TaxSlayer: Florida
Outback: Ole Miss
Liberty: Texas A&M/LSU loser
Music City: Tennessee (Arkansas if Vandy beats UT)
BBVA Compass
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Arkansas
If Kentucky beats Louisville, then that screws some things up. One SEC team will have to go to a non-SEC bowl.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 12:16 pm to anc
And Auburn gets screwed as usual.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 12:16 pm to elposter
quote:Exactly. They want to set it up to create the best draws fro ticket sales.
Sounds like there will be conversations between SEC office, the schools and the bowls to try and make everyone relatively happy, avoid teams going to same bowl too many times/consecutively, avoid rematches, etc.
Teams with better records will typically get the better bowls (you typically aren't going to send a 9-3 team to the Belk Bowl while a 7-5 team goes to Florida for the Outback). You will see teams of equal or almost equal records given bowl assignments based on attractiveness and tick sales.
So even with Tennessee losing to Mizzou this past week, as long as they beat Vandy, they will end up in either the Liberty or Music City (because the thinking is they will sell more tickets to UT fans if they stay in Tennessee than if they were to go to Birmingham of Charlotte).
You also have the SEC able to step in to block a potential matchup. They do not want aTm to play Texas, so it is easier to have the league say "No, we think aTm fits better here" as opposed to aTm turning down an invite to avoid playing the Horns.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 12:22 pm to Mister Tee
after playoff teams are picked, I think the SEC weighs the coaches and that is the order.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 12:32 pm to anc
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Here's how I see it going down:
Committee Placement -------------------- Alabama to the Sugar Mississippi State to the Sugar (as #4), Rose (if FSU or Oregon slip), Orange (if slip to #5) or Peach (if UGA wins SEC Championship game and loss to Ole Miss) Georgia to the Orange (SEC Champion) or Peach (non-SEC Champion Citrus Bowl --------------- selects Missouri SEC Group Bowls ---------------- Texas: Texas A&M/LSU winner Belk: South Carolina TaxSlayer: Florida Outback: Ole Miss Liberty: Texas A&M/LSU loser Music City: Tennessee (Arkansas if Vandy beats UT) BBVA Compass ---------- Arkansas If Kentucky beats Louisville, then that screws some things up. One SEC team will have to go to a non-SEC bowl.
Did Auburn quit football after the Iron Bowl in this scenario?
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