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re: #5 team can't bitch

Posted on 11/21/14 at 1:22 am to
Posted by lsutiger2011
Georgia
Member since Jan 2009
1278 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 1:22 am to
quote:

1. Alabama
8. Ole Miss

4. Mississippi St
5. TCU

3. Oregon
6. Ohio St

2. Florida St
7. Baylor


See this proves exactly why there SHOULD NOT be an 8 team playoff. Think about who likely wins and tell me what changes from the four team we have now? Don't feed me the well any given Saturday crap. Half these teams have no chance to beat the other half.
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
9590 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 1:26 am to
12 is the max I want, and with giving top 4 conference champs a bye, it still gives meaning to the regular season. Plus allows the SEC and other top conferences, to schedule better OOC, since winning the conference still means a playoff spot.
The bye for the top 4 conference champs, also means you really wanna do well throughout the season.
Not to rehash old arguments, but like in 2011. Bama still makes it, but is a 5 seed, since they didn't win the SEC. And their first game is in BDS. LSU would get a bye, and their first game at Death Valley. Seems to keep meaning to the regular season.
Not all conferences will be represented, but most will. And Cinderellas are the best part of the basketball tournament. I don't see a down side. IMO
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66344 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 1:36 am to
quote:

See this proves exactly why there SHOULD NOT be an 8 team playoff. Think about who likely wins and tell me what changes from the four team we have now? Don't feed me the well any given Saturday crap. Half these teams have no chance to beat the other half.


i think those would all be really interesting match

1 v 8 is a rematch wehre 8 won!

2 v 7 puts a shaky undefeated team up against one of th best offenses in the country.

Oregon v. Ohio State should be a shootout too.

it would all be worth watching for sure.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 1:58 am to
quote:

#5 team can't bitch
Yes they can when the only difference between #1 and #5 is who has the prettier jersey. The entire system is still 100% subjective.
Posted by derSturm37
Texas
Member since May 2013
1521 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 2:06 am to
quote:

quote:
1. Alabama
8. Ole Miss

4. Mississippi St
5. TCU

3. Oregon
6. Ohio St

2. Florida St
7. Baylor


See this proves exactly why there SHOULD NOT be an 8 team playoff. Think about who likely wins and tell me what changes from the four team we have now? Don't feed me the well any given Saturday crap. Half these teams have no chance to beat the other half.


Ole Miss COULD beat Bama. (They already have)

Ohio State could beat Oregon. (4 times out of 7)

Baylor could beat Florida State. (And might beat them by 4 touchdowns if they did).

Your point?

Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
9590 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 2:09 am to
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Yes they can when the only difference between #1 and #5 is who has the prettier jersey. The entire system is still 100% subjective.

Bingo. Say LSU has a slightly better resume than say Kansas in basketball. Who gets the higher seed? It sure as hell won't be LSU. Kansas has the name. If Okie State, had been OU in 2011. They make it, not Bama. Its college. Often times the name on the front of your jersey, means more than your resume.
Posted by derSturm37
Texas
Member since May 2013
1521 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 2:12 am to
quote:

You guys are going to get what you deserve. It will eventually be a 16-team tournament and the regular season will be rendered completely meaningless. Do you really want the college football version of a shitty 9-7 New York Giants team winning two national titles?


In EVERY other sport-- from mumbly peg to mechanized warfare-- it's who's better at the END.

So, yes, a "sh*tty 9-7 New York Giants" team would be a welcome champion in my book.

For nearly 150 years too many teams have been disqualified for having lost ONE game early and/or to a fired-up rival and/or this in the rain.

I don't know why YOU are bitching. Your team is WAY better right now than it was 2 months ago.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58035 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 2:30 am to
quote:

See this proves exactly why there SHOULD NOT be an 8 team playoff. Think about who likely wins and tell me what changes from the four team we have now? Don't feed me the well any given Saturday crap. Half these teams have no chance to beat the other half.


have you watched anything outside of LSU this year?

Ole Miss already beat Bama once this year.

FSU has been extremely shaky against a bunch of average teams and would have to win a shootout vs Baylor.

TCU has the passing offense to put up points on Miss State.

Ohio State actually put up more points on Michigan State than Oregon did and had to do it in East Lansing.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 2:32 am to
quote:


1. Alabama
8. Ole Miss

4. Mississippi St
5. TCU

3. Oregon
6. Ohio St

2. Florida St
7. Baylor




See this proves exactly why there SHOULD NOT be an 8 team playoff. Think about who likely wins and tell me what changes from the four team we have now? Don't feed me the well any given Saturday crap. Half these teams have no chance to beat the other half.


Incorrect.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58035 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 2:54 am to
quote:

You guys are going to get what you deserve. It will eventually be a 16-team tournament and the regular season will be rendered completely meaningless. Do you really want the college football version of a shitty 9-7 New York Giants team winning two national titles?




Lets just use last year's week 16 BCS rankings to set up the 16 teams shall we?

01. Florida St (13-0)
02. Auburn (12-1)
03. Alabama (11-1)
04. Michigan St (12-1)
05. Stanford (11-2)
06. Baylor (11-1)
07. Ohio St (12-1)
08. Missouri (11-2)
09. South Carolina (10-2)
10. Oregon (10-2)
11. Oklahoma (10-2)
12. Clemson (10-2)
13. Oklahoma St (10-2)
14. Arizona St (10-3)
15. Central Florida (11-1)
16. LSU (9-3)


Where is this so called shitty 9-7 type Giants team you speak of? I don't see a single team barely over .500 anywhere near the BCS top 16 brah.

Posted by cascadia
Georgia
Member since Jan 2014
2089 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 3:12 am to
Id don't even see how the giants were shitty. Did they not have to win all four of their games in the playoffs vs the "non shitty teams"?
He used a terrible analogy.
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
9590 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 3:26 am to
quote:

Where is this so called shitty 9-7 type Giants team you speak of?

Obviously it was LSU, what board do you think your on?
Posted by thefloydian
Member since Dec 2012
4771 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 9:44 am to
quote:

In EVERY other sport-- from mumbly peg to mechanized warfare-- it's who's better at the END.



Yeah, and that's why college football is the best sport. Because the best team or at least the second best team usually wins.

quote:

So, yes, a "sh*tty 9-7 New York Giants" team would be a welcome champion in my book.


Says the A&M fan.
Posted by thefloydian
Member since Dec 2012
4771 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 9:45 am to
quote:

Id don't even see how the giants were shitty. Did they not have to win all four of their games in the playoffs vs the "non shitty teams"?
He used a terrible analogy.


And Oregon fan.

What didn't you understand about 9-7? I mean, I guess that's pretty good in the Pac 20.
Posted by thefloydian
Member since Dec 2012
4771 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 9:46 am to
quote:

Lets just use last year's week 16 BCS rankings to set up the 16 teams shall we?


Clemson, Arizona St, Central Florida are all terrible and if CFB was structured like the NFL would easily be around 9-7. I'm guessing math isn't your strong suit, but a 16 teams is basically half the NFL.

Next.
This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 9:47 am
Posted by thefloydian
Member since Dec 2012
4771 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 9:48 am to
Basically what this comes down to is the people who are in favor of creating a pointless regular season in favor of and end-of-season lottery are the fans of teams who would never sniff a national title otherwise.
Posted by rmftrtr
Monument, Colorado
Member since Nov 2014
525 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 9:50 am to
quote:

Power 5 champs, 3 at larges.



And the 3 at larges come from BCS standings -- no committee. These morons have shown they have no idea what they're doing. They're no better than ESPN "power" polls.
Posted by rmftrtr
Monument, Colorado
Member since Nov 2014
525 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 9:53 am to
quote:

quote:
1. Alabama
8. Ole Miss

4. Mississippi St
5. TCU

3. Oregon
6. Ohio St

2. Florida St
7. Baylor


See this proves exactly why there SHOULD NOT be an 8 team playoff. Think about who likely wins and tell me what changes from the four team we have now? Don't feed me the well any given Saturday crap. Half these teams have no chance to beat the other half.


Very good point. Because very likely then you would have these winners:

Bama, Miss St, Oregon, Baylor

Would be a little different without FSU I guess.

Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58035 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 10:05 am to
quote:

Clemson, Arizona St, Central Florida are all terrible and if CFB was structured like the NFL would easily be around 9-7. I'm guessing math isn't your strong suit, but a 16 teams is basically half the NFL.




Three college teams that averaged out to about 10-2 = 9-7 in the NFL? 16 out of 32 teams in the NFL playoffs = a potential 16 in CFB where there are over 120 teams? Gump gonna gump I guess.
This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 10:11 am
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