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re: Women's article on playing "hard to get".

Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:06 am to
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:06 am to
Posted by Govt Tide
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:21 am to
The last one irritates the s### out of me and is the single worst bit of advice a woman can get imho.

I had a two really good dates with another woman I met online. Cute former cheerleader. Things went well but she basically took the text advice in this article and ignored a couple of my follow up texts. I dropped her like a bad habit because I don't put up with s### like that. We reconnected a couple months later and she had the nerve to act like I blew her off. We're going out again now so it's all good.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:24 am to
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We're going out again now so it's all good.




Dude, once a girl steps on my toes I tell them to get walkin'.

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The last one irritates the s### out of me and is the single worst bit of advice a woman can get imho.


Yeah, ignoring texts to appear busy is just a strange power struggle bit of advice that's totally unnecessary.

It's sort of like competing when the other person doesn't know it, and just makes you look insane.

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I had a two really good dates with another woman I met online. Cute former cheerleader. Things went well but she basically took the text advice in this article and ignored a couple of my follow up texts.


If you can endure and tolerate the crazy, go get it.
Posted by Govt Tide
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:22 pm to
"I tell them to get walking"

Well, I dropped her off the radar but she charmed me out of the blue on Facebook a few weeks later . I couldn't resist...lol.


Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:38 pm to
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I had a two really good dates with another woman I met online. Cute former cheerleader. Things went well but she basically took the text advice in this article and ignored a couple of my follow up texts. I dropped her like a bad habit because I don't put up with s### like that. We reconnected a couple months later and she had the nerve to act like I blew her off. We're going out again now so it's all good.


Looks like it worked on you.
Posted by Govt Tide
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 1:02 pm to
Not necessarily. I should rephrase and say we're about to go out again so nothing is set in stone with her.

If I was more into the clingy one, this particular one would have missed out completely due to following this ridiculous text advice. I'm also still trying to figure out the good looking, slightly weird but fun woman who I joked with about not being my type. Live/jam band music lover type who is flirty and a lot of fun to hang out with but also a little immature. In other words, the text ignorer has competition so she best not be blowing me off again.
Posted by americanrealism
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 1:02 pm to
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Things went well but she basically took the text advice in this article and ignored a couple of my follow up texts.


This shite right here.

My old high school flame moved back into town several years ago and we went out a few times, had some fun but we never got back together. This was in like 2008. For years after that, about every six months or so she'd text me to ask "Why don't we hang out?", so I'd suggest we get together and she'd flat out ignore the text. I'd never get a reply. Another six months of radio silence go by and she'd ask me again "Why don't we hang out?"

That shite went on for literally about three years until I finally just mirrored her behavior and stopped replying to her texts. Eventually I realized it was just a play for attention and I wrote her out of my life.
Posted by Govt Tide
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 2:37 pm to
The thing I'm noticing that is very frustrating is how fine a line you have to walk with some women. I went out with yet another fun, cute woman. Fun with a lot in common and we really hit it off first date (shut the place down, ended with some good sloppy kissing). She was very excited about meeting again and I was killing it with the text game. We meet out again where we run into some of her buddies, had some appetizers, drinks but again had a good time. We broke away to ourselves, played some pool, and even got some late night Waffle House. A nice evening yet she went completely cold on me right after that. The conclusion being that you can do practically everything just right but if you make one little screw up that you may be completely unaware of a woman will totally lose interest. Unless you're an OT 10 as a guy or you're worth 7 figures your margin of error is often razor thin with some women. This is especially true as even average looking women on dating sites get absolutely bombarded with messages and requests. The really promising prospects have literally dozens of guys lining up to take them out.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 2:48 pm to
Oh-how profound.

The Menz Rules
1. All womernz are crazy to some degree. Acceptance of this makes for a much happier, healthier life.
2. Womernz like to tell themselves and menz that they are not crazy, just coy, and thus perpetuate the self-fulfilling prophecy. (Thus this article.)
3. Trying to find meaning in it? Refer to Rule No. 1.

Of course, none of this applies at all to any poster of the fairer persuasion on tRant...
This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 2:50 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:47 pm to
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Oh-how profound.

The Menz Rules
1. All womernz are crazy to some degree. Acceptance of this makes for a much happier, healthier life.
2. Womernz like to tell themselves and menz that they are not crazy, just coy, and thus perpetuate the self-fulfilling prophecy. (Thus this article.)
3. Trying to find meaning in it? Refer to Rule No. 1


I think all people have a degree of crazy that they suppress -- I think women got too much power in too little time and are having difficult adjusting to it.

They seem genuinely confused as to what they want generally speaking. If you talk to any girl regarding her relationship it's almost always contemporary -- no reflection of the past and no weight given to the future.

Not saying all women are like that, but it's a trend that I've observed.
Posted by americanrealism
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:11 am to
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The conclusion being that you can do practically everything just right but if you make one little screw up that you may be completely unaware of a woman will totally lose interest. Unless you're an OT 10 as a guy or you're worth 7 figures your margin of error is often razor thin with some women. This is especially true as even average looking women on dating sites get absolutely bombarded with messages and requests. The really promising prospects have literally dozens of guys lining up to take them out.



Yeah, in my mid-twenties (I'm 31 now) I came to a realization that with most women it's not about how they feel about you overall, it's about how they feel that day, if that makes any sense. Your interactions can vary wildly from day to day. Most of the time it's not you, it's some weird passing thought she had that derails your entire chemistry.

About your other point about women on dating sites, that is definitely true. Back when I was single I used to use OKCupid, and I found that most women on that site really had an inflated sense of their own attractiveness. I'm no Clooney or anything, but I'm a pretty decent looking guy and I still found that shooting for girls "in my league" on there was really hard and I'd rarely even get a response. Even a lot of fairly homely girls will talk to you like they're God's gift when they're behind a computer. Overall OKC was good for a few slumpbusters but that's about it.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 10:12 am
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:59 am to
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Yeah, in my mid-twenties (I'm 31 now) I came to a realization that with most women it's not about how they feel about you overall, it's about how they feel that day, if that makes any sense. Your interactions can vary wildly from day to day. Most of the time it's not you, it's some weird passing thought she had that derails your entire chemistry.


I just said something very similar to this -- I've noticed that one mistake can wipe out an avalanche of good deeds. My ex was where this revelation hit me and I realized that a lot of good things can immediately be cancelled out.

The "you're not romantic enough" line of thought comes to mind.
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:13 pm to
This is why I don't even waste time asking girls out. I just pick one of the slower-moving ones, hit her in the head with a club, throw her over my shoulder and go back to my cave.
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 2:29 pm to
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I just said something very similar to this -- I've noticed that one mistake can wipe out an avalanche of good deeds. My ex was where this revelation hit me and I realized that a lot of good things can immediately be cancelled out.

The "you're not romantic enough" line of thought comes to mind.


Exactly. When you are romantic, they think "Oh, you're such a suck-up" or "stop being so sappy". Then when you stop doing those things, it's "you never do anything romantic". There's just no pleasing some people.
Posted by Govt Tide
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 4:42 pm to
I had another interesting encounter on an online dating site last night I thought I'd share.

Came across the profile of a very hot 37 yo woman (slightly younger than me). This woman was conservatively an OT 9 to 9.5 and honestly could pass for a college aged girl. While I consider myself a decent looking guy, she was simply out of my league. I said frick it and decided to frick with her head just to see what would happen.
She came off as a hopeless romantic the way her profile read. I turned her message around on her and wrote the most incredible first text drawing emotion out of her. I could tell the text hit home with the way she responded. We're going to end up going out soon. Pretty amazing what can be accomplished with a strong text game. Unfortunately, I'll probably be a drooling idiot face to face with her. She's that fine.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 5:30 pm to
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Exactly. When you are romantic, they think "Oh, you're such a suck-up" or "stop being so sappy". Then when you stop doing those things, it's "you never do anything romantic". There's just no pleasing some people.


This is why I pretty much quit dating as a whole. I have an ex that was literally, exactly like that. I'm a pretty affectionate guy to begin with, and so I'd kiss her a lot (but not in a superfluous or smothering way) and she used to push me away -- so I just stopped.

Of course, when we broke up, this was one of the things she threw in my face -- that I had stopped kissing her.

One of the supreme difficulties on dealing with young women is -- they simply don't know what they want yet, and won't bother telling you.
Posted by vengeanceofrain
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:14 pm to
I have a female friend, for the most part, has her shite together. She has a BF who she cries about who doesn't pay her attention and then like 2-3 months ago he hit her. I was ready to beat his shite in.

But no vengeance don't do that because he proposed the next week and now we're engaged lol.


This is going to come off as sexist as a mofo, but this generation of women, is just different. They don't give a shite about how good of a man you are or how hard you work or how respectful you are. The only thing they care about is how you make them feel and by feel i mean "feel" .


Most guys are infatuated with 22-30 year old women and honestly you could not pay me to date one. As everyone else said they are about 5-10 years away from having a clue in hell what they want and what to look for.


The trick is how do you find a woman who knows what she want that doesn't have 10 years of baggage
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 11:55 pm to
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Most guys are infatuated with 22-30 year old women and honestly you could not pay me to date one. As everyone else said they are about 5-10 years away from having a clue in hell what they want and what to look for.


The tough part is when you're a guy in that age group. I've never been attracted to older women (but I have one now that I'd give a shot, and kinda opened the doors) but I've also been on a few dates with girls who were 18 - 21 the last few weeks.

That pretty much pushed me over the edge.

I broke up with my first girlfriend ever because she listened to The Black Eyed Peas, these girls now are...worse.
Posted by vengeanceofrain
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 12:30 am to
The main problem that I have with women in that age... I mean, they aren't impossible to get. I was in my 20's and I dated. I dated some pretty attractive women. It's not impossible.


The problem is that is that low maintenance women are about as popular as dodo birds. There is no such thing as a low maintenance attractive 25 year old anymore.


They just require too much work. I mean, you know when I was in HS, you saw a cute girl in the mall, you talked to her, if she thought you were cute she gave you her phone number and waited for you to call her and you went out and shite.


To be successful with a really good looking 25 year old you have to basically eat, live and breathe women. You have to be on facebook ALL the time. You have to be on dating sites ALL the time. You have to go on dates, you have to shower her with attention.


Guys are having to chose between starting a career or getting laid, beucase in 2014 most men can't do both. You can get laid, it's not fricking hard, if you devoted more time to it, or you can have a nice career for the rest of your life, but to be successful with women means going out all the time, constantly talking to new women, text gaming the ones you have, going on dates, giving them all this attention that you aren't giving your career.


It's a big circle jerk.

If you're not a guy that's constantly on facebook / twitter / dating sites, giving her attention, she will never find you. That's the catch 22. "Guys worth a shite don't have time for that, and women have so many guys who line up and beg for pussy that in their own minds they have no reason to really look elsewhere. Until they are in their 30's and realize all these guys aren't worth a shite and they want something "different" but by that time the 35 year old guy who didn't get any real play for the last 10 years is too busy boning 24 year old's making up for lost time because for the first time in his life because he has his shite together he can constantly, leaving the 35 year old woman to ask "why can't I find a good man".

It's not really anyone's fault I'm not blaming women, but that's just the world we live in.
This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 12:31 am
Posted by Arkla Missy
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 12:56 am to
#2 isn't playing "hard to get." It was/is just considered good dating etiquette. Of course, things have loosened up a bit these days, so I suppose it's an individual preference. But don't assume that just because a female has a "dating rule" that she's playing hard to get. It's more of a respect thing & was/is just good manners to ask for a date a day or two in advance.

#3 - How the hell is having confidence playing "hard to get"? That's just ignorant. What do you want? ... A clingy chick with no self esteem?? ... Attractive.

Not answering a text immediately, on purpose, for no legit reason, is just rude on the female's part. She should respond as soon as she gets a chance.

And "don't get annoyed" about what??? ... Some dude not kissing arse & asking for her hand after the first date??? ... Stupid. No female wants that ... ETA: Except the clingy ones with no self esteem.

So, in conclusion, I think this entire thing was conceived by a complete dumbass.
This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 1:30 am
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