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re: Indoor practice facility by next year?
Posted on 11/18/14 at 10:01 pm to Chef Leppard
Posted on 11/18/14 at 10:01 pm to Chef Leppard
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I know he doesnt dazzle anyone as a forward thinking offensive mind. we're more "this is what we do" depending on execution etc
I think Bobo's success has been based on having a very steady, consistent scheme that appeals to offensive skill players that have pro aspirations. He's a great recruiter that has been able to accumulate pro level talent that fits the scheme. His offense produces largely due to talent level.
That's not in any way a slight, as he's largely responsible for acquiring that talent. I just don't think people see that as a model that could work at a smaller school, since it probably wouldn't.
He hasn't shown he can do more with less, since he's always been able and wanted to get more to do more.
I hope he sticks around for awhile. This model works for Georgia.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 10:05 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Crowknowsbest
Yep. But then when he does things right the same people don't give him credit. That same guy wouldn't acknowledge that the 3rd down screen to Chubb where Gurley was one of the most beautiful calls Bobo has dialed up. That was damn near perfect.
I've gotta give Bobo a ton of credit for really sticking with what works this season. Sometimes I get nervous waiting for him to try and get cute, but it's like he finally realizes what he has and just keeps pounding away with the running game. It's been a big step forward for him in my opinion.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 10:20 pm to Crowknowsbest
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His offense produces largely due to talent level.
I think thats exactly it actually. but how well does depending on having the more superior athletes on the field work out in the SEC
And if thats the case what separates him from 100 other OCs. how many guys can say well my system works as long as I have a NFL prospect qb, heisman RBs, and a line like green bays
Posted on 11/18/14 at 10:34 pm to Chef Leppard
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how well does depending on having the more superior athletes on the field work out in the SEC
pretty well just based on our production vs. other SEC offenses. There hasn't been a more consistent offense in the SEC than UGA since Richt got here and even when he was at FSU before that.
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how many guys can say well my system works as long as I have a NFL prospect qb, heisman RBs, and a line like green bays
Probably a bunch, but I don't think that's really the point. For Bobo's specific circumstance of being the OC at a recruiting power and wanting to be the HC in a similar program, his system works wonderfully. It's about talent acquisition more than anything, imo. I would say that there are very few OCs that would be nearly as good as Bobo at getting talented players.
Major programs aren't about doing less with more. They win big by getting more talent and setting it loose.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 7:21 am to Crowknowsbest
My thought has always been that Bobo's talent evaluation, aside from OL (but that could be blamed on several people), is top notch. His staff that he and Richt built is top notch. The system he uses is effective. More often than not his gameplan is effective but there are frick ups here and there. But who doesn't have that?
I think the only thing that he isn't really elite at is situational play calling. I know you'll probably disagree, which is fair, and to be honest I am not saying he is bad at it. I just think he is hit or miss when it comes to the pivotal play call. You have your over use of the bubble screen and then you have his 4th and 1 call where he motioned the the FB to both be on the right side and it was beautiful. Again, you can't expect someone to be much better than he is at that.
My point is, if there is any, that Bobo is a damn good producer but, yea, there are better guys out there but few are so good that you should have any want for something different. Basically, these days, I sit in the middle of our fans who think he is a god send and those who think he is a bum.
I think the only thing that he isn't really elite at is situational play calling. I know you'll probably disagree, which is fair, and to be honest I am not saying he is bad at it. I just think he is hit or miss when it comes to the pivotal play call. You have your over use of the bubble screen and then you have his 4th and 1 call where he motioned the the FB to both be on the right side and it was beautiful. Again, you can't expect someone to be much better than he is at that.
My point is, if there is any, that Bobo is a damn good producer but, yea, there are better guys out there but few are so good that you should have any want for something different. Basically, these days, I sit in the middle of our fans who think he is a god send and those who think he is a bum.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 7:32 am to Damn Good Dawg
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I think the only thing that he isn't really elite at is situational play calling. I know you'll probably disagree, which is fair, and to be honest I am not saying he is bad at it. I just think he is hit or miss when it comes to the pivotal play call. You have your over use of the bubble screen and then you have his 4th and 1 call where he motioned the the FB to both be on the right side and it was beautiful. Again, you can't expect someone to be much better than he is at that.
All this is true, but I think it's somewhat of an unfair criticism. No OC ever has been a perfect situational playcaller. You also have to take into account player execution. For example, Bobo was much criticized for the call late against USCe. I don't really agree with it either, but Bobo probably wasn't expecting Mason to brainfart and take a grounding call there. It wasn't a particularly high risk call, Mason just should have tossed it into the bleachers instead of the ground.
I can't think of an OC in college right now that's proven to be a better playcaller in those moments.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 7:37 am to Crowknowsbest
That's why I am fine with Bobo. You're rarely going to find a better OC. I just won't go around and say he is elite because there are mistakes. For calls like the USCe one it absolutely was loaded with variables that influenced the outcome but ultimately it falls on him. That's his job. You can argue it either way in that a) his player fricked up the execution but then b) Bobo should know his guy and what he is capable of.
I am not really arguing it either way here. I just am vain enough to write all of this out to exclaim how I am in the middle when it comes to Bobo. My biggest issue with him? He is a gigantic a-hole who teased the pistol and then put it away.
I am not really arguing it either way here. I just am vain enough to write all of this out to exclaim how I am in the middle when it comes to Bobo. My biggest issue with him? He is a gigantic a-hole who teased the pistol and then put it away.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 7:41 am to Damn Good Dawg
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My biggest issue with him? He is a gigantic a-hole who teased the pistol and then put it away.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 7:44 am to Crowknowsbest
Emerson's article on the IPF.
LINK
Even Ekeler weighing in on it...
LINK
Even Ekeler weighing in on it...
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"We need one. I mean it's crazy, it's amazing we don't have one," Ekeler said. "It's absolutely crazy. It's absurd. But that's not my (decision). But I'm sure that will happen, surely."
This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 7:46 am
Posted on 11/19/14 at 8:02 am to Spaceman Spiff
Ekeler closing for Pruitt with some high, inside heat.
Nice.
Nice.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 8:30 am to Spaceman Spiff
I'm glad somebody said that other schools question Georgia's commitment to football when they don't even have an indoor practice facility.
This is what happens when you bring in somebody from programs that do what it takes to win. Pruitt can say he wasn't calling out the administration all he wants, but in a way he did. I also like how he said he hadn't been at Georgia long enough to determine whether or not they get what they need to succeed, but he wouldn't have come otherwise. We are now seeing why we haven't quite gotten over the hump, and the UGA administration has been quite comfortable raking in the earnings of a top program all the while not giving the football program the tools it needs to compete at the very top.
This is what happens when you bring in somebody from programs that do what it takes to win. Pruitt can say he wasn't calling out the administration all he wants, but in a way he did. I also like how he said he hadn't been at Georgia long enough to determine whether or not they get what they need to succeed, but he wouldn't have come otherwise. We are now seeing why we haven't quite gotten over the hump, and the UGA administration has been quite comfortable raking in the earnings of a top program all the while not giving the football program the tools it needs to compete at the very top.
This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 8:31 am
Posted on 11/19/14 at 8:36 am to JCdawg
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I'm glad somebody said that other schools question Georgia's commitment to football when they don't even have an indoor practice facility.
This is what happens when you bring in somebody from programs that do what it takes to win. Pruitt can say he wasn't calling out the administration all he wants, but in a way he did. I also like how he said he hadn't been at Georgia long enough to determine whether or not they get what they need to succeed, but he wouldn't have come otherwise. We are now seeing why we haven't quite gotten over the hump, and the UGA administration has been quite comfortable raking in the earnings of a top program all the while not giving the football program the tools it needs to compete at the very top.
Very well said, sir.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 11:27 am to Chef Leppard
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five yrs ago morris was, betting he wont be at clemson next year
And the decline begins
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