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If Mizzou accomplishes the impossible, wins SECCG, and keeps SEC out of playoffs

Posted on 11/12/14 at 5:59 pm
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/12/14 at 5:59 pm
will that say more about SEC strength this year or the terrible playoff structure?

in my opinion, the playoffs should have been created with at least 6 teams to be fair. 8 would be ideal. Guaranteed spots for the 5 conference winners from the 5 major conferences, plus a wild card team chosen from the independents/mid majors. The conference championship games would actually be the first unofficial playoff games, which from that perspective the playoff could be viewed as a 10 - 12 team playoff.

if a team cannot win the conference, that team does not deserve to be in the playoff.

screw rankings. win your damn conference.


Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42435 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:02 pm to
The reason they don't do this is because everybody would schedule cupcakes for their all of their non-conference games. Would be very boring football outside of conference play.
This post was edited on 11/12/14 at 6:03 pm
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:04 pm to
who cares? you still have to win your conference.

this scenario would result in the rankings meaning very little and the conference championships meaning everything, which would make the regular season meaningful as well as the playoffs
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20282 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:05 pm to
No offense but...

If Mizzo wins SEC championship and denies SEC a playoff spot then I would say the system worked exceptionally well.

If the best team from the West can't beat Mizzo (this years team) at the end of the season then there are better teams that are more deserving of a playoff spot.
This post was edited on 11/12/14 at 6:07 pm
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:08 pm to
but that's not what would happen. a 1 loss West team like Miss State would jump a Mizzou team that beat them in the conference championship, which would make the conference championship meaningless...and to some degree the regular season.

if people want the regular season, conference champ games, and playoffs to be meaningful from start to finish, they'll create a playoff system like what I mentioned in the OP

otherwise, they have fricked up CFB more than the BCS system.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20282 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:15 pm to
Jack Arute and Chizik have been saying the exact same thing all year long on Sirius radio.

What would be great is that if somehow the B12 winner is left out of the playoffs by the slimmest of margins because they didn't have the big game at the end of the year (conference championship game).

Basically every conference that has a championship game already has a "playoff game". Those that don't (B12) are getting a free pass.

In other words, I agree with you but only if all power conferences have a championship game.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:16 pm to
well, in my scenario every conference would be required to have a championship game if they wanted to send a team to the playoffs.

pretty simple really.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20282 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:18 pm to
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in my scenario every conference would be required to have a championship game


Well you didn't say that originally. Come on man.
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:21 pm to
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Well you didn't say that originally.


Your argument has caught the dumb.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:21 pm to


fair enough.

but seriously every major conference should have a championship game. the Big 12 should schedule one if they want to send a team to the playoff.

But this is logical thinking. The playoff committee has never been accused of logical thinking.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:21 pm to
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a team cannot win the conference, that team does not deserve to be in the playoff. 



Cue Bama fans in 3 ....2 .... 1.

But yes. It's harder to win the sec title than it is/was the playoff/bcs. You can't finish 2nd in the west and win the sec title.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:23 pm to
I just don't understand why the playoff committee didn't create the playoff this way. whatever their reasoning is won't make sense to me.
Posted by JoeMoTiger
KC Area
Member since Nov 2013
2677 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:24 pm to
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No offense but... If Mizzo wins SEC championship and denies SEC a playoff spot then I would say the system worked exceptionally well. If the best team from the West can't beat Mizzo (this years team) at the end of the season then there are better teams that are more deserving of a playoff spot.


Yes.......if you can't beat MIZZIANA you's out of the playoff.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:27 pm to
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people want the regular season, conference champ games, and playoffs to be meaningful from start to finish, they'll create a playoff system like what I mentioned in the OP 



The playoff needs 8 teams. 5 p5 conference champs and 3 at large bids. That way the coaches and players have 100% control over making the playoffs and there is a set criteria on making the playoffs. The BCS and the playoffs don't allow coaches and players to control their own destiny. After all the changes to the bowl system it's crazy that a p5 team could go undefeated and not make the playoffs.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:30 pm to
I agree.

So why was it created this way?
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:35 pm to
The playoff structure is fine.

Mizzou isn't one of the best 4 teams in the country, even if they can win the SEC.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26950 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:37 pm to
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JaxTiger10
If Mizzou accomplishes the impossible, wins SECCG, and keeps SEC out of playoffs
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people want the regular season, conference champ games, and playoffs to be meaningful from start to finish, they'll create a playoff system like what I mentioned in the OP 


The playoff needs 8 teams. 5 p5 conference champs and 3 at large bids. That way the coaches and players have 100% control over making the playoffs and there is a set criteria on making the playoffs. The BCS and the playoffs don't allow coaches and players to control their own destiny. After all the changes to the bowl system it's crazy that a p5 team could go undefeated and not make the playoffs.




Stupid post is stupid. You can't say that "coaches and players would have 100% control"...but then give someone else control to let in 3 extra teams. That's not 100%. Nor can there be "set criteria" when you have to have a panel voting for 3 at large teams...just like we have a panel voting now. Makes no fricking sense.
This post was edited on 11/12/14 at 6:39 pm
Posted by JoeMoTiger
KC Area
Member since Nov 2013
2677 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:38 pm to
Expand the playoff to 8 teams and then the SEC can get rid of OOC and rotate the schedule so every team is playing each other every two yrs or however it works out, that would ensure a team or maybe 2 in the playoff every year from the SEC because SOS would be so strong, 2-3 losses does not matter as much because you're playing decent quality competition every week just like the NFL does. Man after typing that shite and reading it makes no sense and is dumb as hell................press enter
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:41 pm to
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Stupid post is stupid. You can't say that "coaches and players would have 100% control"...but then give someone else control to let in 3 extra teams.

Yes they would. Coaches and players would have 100% control over making the playoffs by winning their conference. The at large bids are the only ones voted in.
quote:

Nor can the be "set criteria" when you have to have a panel voting for 3 at large teams...just like we have a panel voting now. 

Yes it can. The set criteria of making the playoffs, is winning your conference.

If you can understand this, you're dumb.
This post was edited on 11/12/14 at 6:43 pm
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 6:43 pm to
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Man after typing that shite and reading it makes no sense and is dumb as hell................press enter


No, actually it's a great idea. As long as all the P5's do it.

Relegate the shitty OOC games to a couple exhibition games against the little sisters of the poor schools as a tune up.

Play a 10 or 11 game conference sked with a CCG.

Have an 8 team playoff.
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