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Outsiders View of a Bad Call

Posted on 11/10/14 at 7:56 am
Posted by Miz-Stl
Wildwood, MO
Member since Sep 2012
244 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 7:56 am
I didn't have a rooting interest one way or the other, but I am not sure how that ref makes that call on LSU's lineman late in the game. In great games, and that was a great game, ref's should be a little more careful with their whistles. They should not one of the deciding factors in the game.

I have seen this in more than a few SEC games this year. I am not sure who is the director of officiating in the SEC, but they need to make sure their refs get onboard and don't damage the SEC brand by really bad calls in nationally telecast games.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32176 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 7:58 am to
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but I am not sure how that ref makes that call on LSU's lineman late in the game. In great games, and that was a great game,
How about the player making good decisions in "great games"?
Posted by ErnestTBassmaster
Bird Whistle, Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
2583 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 7:59 am to
quote:

Miz-Stl
quote:

they need to make sure their refs get onboard and don't damage the SEC brand by really bad calls

Because the brand matters more than getting a call right.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 7:59 am to
It should have been offsetting but it doesn't matter, your players have to be smart enough to not act like idiots in that situation. Literally cost them the game.
Posted by Miz-Stl
Wildwood, MO
Member since Sep 2012
244 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 8:00 am to
And I am not implying the ref was cheating for Alabama. I think it was an overzealous ref. That being said incompetence is almost as bad as cheating.

My comment wasn't concerning the game itself, only that I have noticed more than a few bad calls by SEC refs in big games. The SEC is too good of league than to be decided by ref calls.
Posted by auburnphan23
Member since Jan 2014
5862 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 8:02 am to
bammers running their mouths about the referees not calling holding on Auburn, but that was at least the 3rd game this year when the referees have made some questionable call in Alabama's favor. That doesn't even include bs penalties like holding that people could argue were missed in a lot of games
Posted by lsutigertalk
At Death Valley
Member since Apr 2004
5471 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 8:02 am to
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It should have been offsetting but it doesn't matter, your players have to be smart enough to not act like idiots in that situation. Literally cost them the game.


People keep saying it cost LSU the game, but that isn't true. Bama would have went for the end zone instead of kicking the field goal at the end of the game and scored on the same play they did in OT. LSU allowed Bama to get the ball on the 35 because squib kicking is the stupidest thing in all of sports. Not to mention a few huge 3rd down conversions. In OT everyone knew it was Bama's game.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32176 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 8:07 am to
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And I am not implying the ref was cheating for Alabama.
I would hope not since 74 clearly pushed the guy. Whether or not he was pushed first, I don't know. But, a cooler head would have taken the push and not gotten caught in retaliation. Game situations should not change the rules of the games. That would make the referees in control of the game; not the players.
Posted by ErnestTBassmaster
Bird Whistle, Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
2583 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 8:09 am to
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auburnphan23
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That doesn't even include bs penalties like holding that people could argue were missed in a lot of games

Dear sweet Jesus. Do you even Shon Coleman?
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
39910 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 8:10 am to
How many times does it have to be repeated it wasn't a squib kick? The kid mishit it. And the actual difference was really only 10 yards so still should have tackled Bama inbounds on D.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 8:13 am to
The officials were shite in that game, but they sucked for both teams.
Posted by TrueMizzou
Member since Jan 2014
234 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 8:24 am to
I think that particular call was appropriate, but I also think a non-call would have been fine. Cool thinking by LSU's lineman would have made it academic.

The play that really stays with me was the failure to review Bama's long third down pass completion on their final drive in regulation. I wasn't able to see if it was a completion, and it looked tight enough to merit a review by the officials, but they didn't call for one. That one left me scratching my head.
Posted by ErnestTBassmaster
Bird Whistle, Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
2583 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 8:29 am to
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TrueMizzou
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The play that really stays with me was the failure to review Bama's long third down pass completion on their final drive in regulation. I wasn't able to see if it was a completion, and it looked tight enough to merit a review by the officials, but they didn't call for one. That one left me scratching my head.

Coach Miles said his upstairs staff advised him that it was a catch, and not worth risking a challenge. I will try to find the link.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41811 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 8:32 am to
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People keep saying it cost LSU the game, but that isn't true. Bama would have went for the end zone instead of kicking the field goal at the end of the game and scored on the same play they did in OT


It cost LSU the win
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 8:35 am to
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It cost LSU the win


Same could have been said for the BS personal foul penalty on Leon Brown on our OT touchdown drive on the play that fat boy OL Brandon Greene caught a pass that took it down to the one. Instead of first and goal from the 1. It was first and 10 from the 16. If we hadn't scored there - that penalty would have been killer.

But you know what? We went for the win. LSU could have stopped us - but they didn't. So the penalty ended up not mattering.

Suck it up.
This post was edited on 11/10/14 at 8:36 am
Posted by mattloc
Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4298 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 8:40 am to
The whining is amusing but does not comport with reality ....

1. The ball shouldn't have been spotted at the one but at the 20.

2.The LSU lineman was the only player that kept pushing after the whistle blew at least 4 times.
(go back and watch it)

3 The Brown foul was much more questionable than the one on LSU because the whistle had not yet sounded.



Calls I saw that should have been made on LSU and were not....

1. Hand holding on White in the end zone in the end zone clearly cost us 7 points.

2. Deandrew White was interfered with on the bomb threw on the final drive...Danielson said it could have been called.

3. The creepy LSU player that pulled down our linebackers pants while the play was ongoing should have been penalized or ejected.

4 I saw at least three good holds by LSU lineman... the last one coming on the final play



My point is that we could all whine about the Refs. However, you could not pay me enough to be a Ref in the SEC ....especially in Death Valley

ETA: the Jones catch was a catch or at a minimum there was not evidence presented to overturn it.
This post was edited on 11/10/14 at 8:59 am
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41811 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 8:46 am to
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2.The LSU lineman was the only player that kept pushing after the whistle blew at least 4 times. 
(go back and watch


Have you seen the Gump pulling our lineman's leg? It's a no call OR off-setting flags.

As for the rest of your post, I can't imagine why a Gump would about officiating.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41811 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 8:48 am to
LSU was the better team

The better team didn't win

sux to hear it, huh?
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10942 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 8:48 am to
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Bama would have went for the end zone instead of kicking the field goal at the end of the game and scored on the same play they did in OT.
Could you please give me this week's winning Power Ball numbers, while you're at it?

Thanks.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24262 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 8:53 am to
I was glad that on the repay it was a catch because I knew had it not been reviewed and he had trapped it that it would have tainted the win
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