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Take a step back and think.

Posted on 11/3/14 at 4:49 am
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 4:49 am
Just how many coaches have won a NC in the past 10 years? 20? Or how about, out of all the active coaches , how many have?

Think about that before the "we need a coach to win a NC" craps starts again.
Posted by Rules
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 5:28 am to
20? How many sports are you including?
Posted by DragginFly
Under the Mountain;By the Lake
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 5:33 am to
It's the "just about anybody in the SEC ought to be able to win a natty" theory.
Posted by HellRaisingDawg
Lake Park, Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:04 am to
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20? How many sports are you including?


I restrained myself from commenting, thinking that somehow this was a trick question...
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:08 am to
I think it was meant to mean "20 years".
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:45 am to
I got that after the second read. At first I thought it was a sarcastic answer. Well now I don't know what to think.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:46 am to
I just don't think it would do any good to fire him. IMO, the problems facing Georgia are much more systemic
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 6:46 am
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:04 am to
The thing is that's the same coaches keep winning the. And competing for them because those coaches wouldn't think to walk off the field with their son grinning and yuck in it up after a humiliating loss.

Richt ain't going anywhere because UGA. Wants a university the football team can be proud of....our competition wants a university that the football team can be proud of.....and that is not insignificant.....
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17450 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:05 am to
It would be stupid to fire him. Think about it: He goes and its a safe bet all the assistants do too. And we all know how good/great recruiters they are, too. So that goes out the window. Our great class suddenly bottoms out due to the sure mass exodus of recruits that would be sure to follow.

Yep, that is what we need.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:24 am to
quote:

The thing is that's the same coaches keep winning the. And competing for them because those coaches wouldn't think to walk off the field with their son grinning and yuck in it up after a humiliating loss.

Think about the programs they're winning at and the level of support they give coaches.

The level of financial and policy commitment that Bama and Aub give Saban and Malzahn isn't even remotely comparable to what UGA gives Richt.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17450 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:41 am to
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The level of financial and policy commitment that Bama and Aub give Saban and Malzahn isn't even remotely comparable to what UGA gives Richt.


So, you are saying that UGA gives a lot more financial commitment to our football program than the 'bama team gets? I find that hard to believe. Facts, please.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:52 am to
quote:

So, you are saying that UGA gives a lot more financial commitment to our football program than the 'bama team gets? I find that hard to believe. Facts, please.

I'm saying the opposite
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:54 am to
Oh shite. I read that wrong.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 8:31 am to
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I just don't think it would do any good to fire him. IMO, the problems facing Georgia are much more systemic


I think this is partially true but it's not like the system, our admins, etc., don't want a NC, they absolutely do but it's simply not the highest priority. Also, I think with the right guidance, Richt could win a NC. He came very close in 2012.

From my perspective, here are some the issues that need to be addressed:

1. Maintain a full roster - This means signing enough players to allow for normal attrition. No, it's not entirely predictable but hey, the guy is being paid multi-millions to make some hard choices.

2. Sign more reliable players - This involves doing better background checks related to behavior/habits, physique, health history, etc. The whole idea to sign more players who will actually be contributing to the team.

3. Player mentors at least for key players - I can't think of any SEC football program that has had as many key players get into trouble that led to either being kicked off the team or lost playing time for misbehavior issues as Georgia. I don't know what other schools do to keep their top players in line but I would guess coaching assistants are assigned to monitor, spy, whatever you want to call it to nip issues in the bud before they become full blown incidents. This is part of what I mean by instilling daily discipline. When you see signs of discipline issues, deal with it immediately.

4. Make recruiting in the trenches a top priority. There are many RB's who can get 3.4 yards per carry behind a superior OL. And there is no substitute for both big and athletic DL and LB's.

5. Recruit better in the Secondary. Don't settle for small 3 star DB's. With today's receivers we need DB's who are as big as most receivers and equally athletic who can play smart and tackle with a vengeance. We need Safety's who can match up with any TE and put any RB on his arse.

6. Recruit better QB's. Cam Newton became the prototype QB. Now we are seeing Dac Prescott in the same mold at MSU. We need a big and athletic QB who is just as much a threat to run as he is to making a 50 yard pass down-field. This means including more read-option components in the offense spreading the opposing defense horizontally and vertically to get play-makers in space.

7. Recruit bigger, faster and more athletic WR's. I have seen them on other teams like Auburn, Bama, LSU, Tennessee, Baylor, heck even WVU. Possession receivers are fine for getting first downs but we need some big play receivers. We haven't had a break-away type receiver since A.J. Green.

8. Play smarter in general. For instance on FG attempts, have 2 tall players who simply jump straight up with arms extended and the rest of the team should EXPECT a fake kick. Same thing on punts. Have a couple of players dedicated to blocking the punt without running into the kicker and everyone else EXPECT a fake punt. In other words play special teams defense like you are defending against a first down try on 4th down.

There's is a ton more that could be added. But I will close by saying that if FSU with their crappy budget and a mediocre coach in Jimbo Fisher can win a NC then Georgia most certainly can with Mark Richt. FSU won their championship last year with superior athletes, plain and simple. It damn sure wasn't because Fisher is a coaching genius. Yea, he won it with that tPOS, Jameis Winston, but you can't tell me there aren't equally talented QB's of decent character who would love to play at UGA.
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 8:39 am
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5413 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 11:21 am to
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Our great class suddenly bottoms out due to the sure mass exodus of recruits that would be sure to follow.



Why the frick would that even matter if we're not ever going to win anything with all these "great" classes?
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17450 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 11:23 am to
One part of the puzzle, redcoat...
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 11:26 am to
I've been thinking about it, and I believe one thread would've been sufficient to discuss this matter instead of three.
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
2021 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 11:39 am to
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Yep, that is what we need


I'd take a couple years of 5-6 win seasons to hoist the Crystal and compete to win the SEC on a regular basis.

Tired of mediocrity. Tired of good, not great.

There is no same. Either you are getting better or you are getting worse.
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 11:40 am
Posted by Dawgs9
Where ever I am
Member since Sep 2012
1940 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

Richt could win a NC. He came very close in 2012.




NO he could not
Just how did he come close? That 5 yards everyone likes to say? He blew that game by not spiking the damn ball. Last he has never played for an N.C to come close to winning
So no he can't and he didn't
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

quote:
Richt could win a NC. He came very close in 2012.




NO he could not
Just how did he come close? That 5 yards everyone likes to say? He blew that game by not spiking the damn ball.


I agree and your view is just as valid as mine. It's just that: one, I know Richt will our HC as long as he wants to be (our admins love him) and two, I do see potential for a championship under Richt if he could only adjust a few things about how he manages the team not the least of which is maintaining a full roster and doing whatever it takes to keep our best players from getting into trouble.
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