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Posted on 10/31/14 at 9:27 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
Posted on 10/31/14 at 9:27 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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OH GOOD
Go to , the history of the Southern Conference, it stated they had 30 teams and added 6 the next year. THEY HAD A LOT, the point is moot if they had 36 or 26, really doesn't , make a damn bit of difference to the point that they had recognized champs when they played
And they all played football, right? Because that's what we're talking about.
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 9:30 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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Go to , the history of the Southern Conference, it stated they had 30 teams and added 6 the next year. THEY HAD A LOT, the point is moot if they had 36 or 26, really doesn't , make a damn bit of difference to the point that they had recognized champs when they played.
And again, every official source says there were no official titles, which makes sense, frankly. There were media votes for conference champions.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 9:36 pm to Korin
I am not going to argue with your dumb azz. If 12 teams decided to leave the S.E.C. and 100 years from now the S.E.C. didn't acknowledge Florida's SEC titles, that doesn't mean they didn't happen.
The newspapers of the day describe the title holders of their day.
Florida had no history save a 15 year stretch so I wouldn't be looking at history and football if I were you.
If you do look under........
SUCKS
The newspapers of the day describe the title holders of their day.
Florida had no history save a 15 year stretch so I wouldn't be looking at history and football if I were you.
If you do look under........
SUCKS
Posted on 10/31/14 at 9:38 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
Posted on 10/31/14 at 9:42 pm to Korin
CFBDatawarehouse
No
Year
Record
Selector
1
1914
9-0-0
Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Association Champions
2
1927
8-0-1
Southern Conference Co-Champions
3
1932
9-0-1
Southern Conference Co-Champions
4
1938
11-0-0
National Champions
Southeastern Conference Champions
5
1939
10-1-0
Southeastern Conference Co-Champions
6
1940
10-1-0
Southeastern Conference Champions
7
1946
9-2-0
Southeastern Conference Co-Champions
8
1950
11-1-0
National Champions
9
1951
10-1-0
National Champions
Southeastern Conference Co-Champions
10
1956
10-1-0
Southeastern Conference Champions
11
1967
9-2-0
Southeastern Conference Champions
12
1969
9-2-0
Southeastern Conference Champions
13
1985
9-1-2
Southeastern Conference Champions
14
1989
11-1-0
Southeastern Conference Co-Champions
15
1990
9-2-2
Southeastern Conference Champions
16
1993
10-2-0
SEC - Eastern Division Co-Champions
17
1997
11-2-0
Southeastern Conference Champions
SEC - East Division Champions
18
1998
13-0-0
National Champions
Southeastern Conference Champions
SEC - East Division Champions
19
2001
11-2-0
SEC - East Division Champions
20
2003
10-3-0
SEC - Eastern Division Co-Champions
21
2004
10-3-0
SEC - East Division Champions
22
2007
10-4-0
SEC - Eastern Division Co-Champions
Data warehouse recognizes them, so I'll take their word. Also, champions were named through newspaper consensus
No
Year
Record
Selector
1
1914
9-0-0
Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Association Champions
2
1927
8-0-1
Southern Conference Co-Champions
3
1932
9-0-1
Southern Conference Co-Champions
4
1938
11-0-0
National Champions
Southeastern Conference Champions
5
1939
10-1-0
Southeastern Conference Co-Champions
6
1940
10-1-0
Southeastern Conference Champions
7
1946
9-2-0
Southeastern Conference Co-Champions
8
1950
11-1-0
National Champions
9
1951
10-1-0
National Champions
Southeastern Conference Co-Champions
10
1956
10-1-0
Southeastern Conference Champions
11
1967
9-2-0
Southeastern Conference Champions
12
1969
9-2-0
Southeastern Conference Champions
13
1985
9-1-2
Southeastern Conference Champions
14
1989
11-1-0
Southeastern Conference Co-Champions
15
1990
9-2-2
Southeastern Conference Champions
16
1993
10-2-0
SEC - Eastern Division Co-Champions
17
1997
11-2-0
Southeastern Conference Champions
SEC - East Division Champions
18
1998
13-0-0
National Champions
Southeastern Conference Champions
SEC - East Division Champions
19
2001
11-2-0
SEC - East Division Champions
20
2003
10-3-0
SEC - Eastern Division Co-Champions
21
2004
10-3-0
SEC - East Division Champions
22
2007
10-4-0
SEC - Eastern Division Co-Champions
Data warehouse recognizes them, so I'll take their word. Also, champions were named through newspaper consensus
Posted on 10/31/14 at 9:43 pm to BigOrangeBri
Right, the same CFDW who says that LSU is a better program all time than Tennessee. 
Posted on 10/31/14 at 9:49 pm to Korin
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Right, the same CFDW who says that LSU is a better program all time than Tennessee.
That's fine. I also know that system is set up by giving random arbitrary points.
When it comes to historical data they are legit.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 9:50 pm to BigOrangeBri
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Data warehouse recognizes them, so I'll take their word. Also, champions were named through newspaper consensus
So, some random Alabama fan puts in on the internet and you're good with it. Says a lot about you.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 9:50 pm to Korin
quote:
the same CFDW who says that LSU is a better program all time than Tennessee.
You disagree, therefore invalid?
Posted on 10/31/14 at 9:51 pm to BigOrangeBri
quote:
That's fine. I also know that system is set up by giving random arbitrary points.
When it comes to historical data they are legit.
The CFDW is 1 person who randomly chooses to recognize certain conference and national titles.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 9:58 pm to Korin
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The CFDW is 1 person who randomly chooses to recognize certain conference and national titles.
Listen dude, Conference champions were recognized. It was done through newspapers. I could see if teams were counting them as SEC titles, they're not.
You like to argue about the most meaningless shite.
Another website that recognizes the early titles........ Winsipidia
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:00 pm to boxedlunch
quote:
So, some random Alabama fan puts in on the internet and you're good with it. Says a lot about you.
Yeah, I'm not to worried about conference titles from extinct conferences from 100 years ago
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:00 pm to BigOrangeBri
That still doesn't change the fact that SoCon titles then weren't official, but okay.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:00 pm to BigOrangeBri
quote:
Yeah, I'm not to worried about conference titles from extinct conferences from 100 years ago
Well apparently you are because you're posting about it right now.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:03 pm to BigOrangeBri
quote:
Listen dude, Conference champions were recognized. It was done through newspapers. I could see if teams were counting them as SEC titles, they're not.
You like to argue about the most meaningless shite.
Another website that recognizes the early titles........ Winsipidia
Conference champions were recognized, but not officially. I have no problem with teams claiming them, myself, so long as acknowledged that they are what they are.
That being said, what any website has is kind of meaningless, particularly Winspedia, who basically just stole their information from other on-line sources, and likely couldn't tell you the history behind it.
Data sites, just present data and usually, it all looks the same. I "recognize" some of the same, but will still point out that it's questionable information.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:04 pm to boxedlunch
Exactly. SoCon and SIAA titles from that period are mythical and no different from claiming national titles. Just because some random blog or site "recognizes" them doesn't change that.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:13 pm to Korin
You don't have to go to some blog or random site; those SoCon titles are listed in the fricking NCAA record book. The schools that claim them are right to do so.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:15 pm to Korin
quote:
That still doesn't change the fact that SoCon titles then weren't official, but okay.
Ok, who cares. They weren't official, but were recognized. Does it really matter?
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:15 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
Which still doesn't change the fact that they weren't official. The NCAA also lists national titles.
Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:16 pm to BigOrangeBri
quote:
Ok, who cares. They weren't official, but were recognized. Does it really matter?
Well, official would mean that they were actually won on the field. So yeah.
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