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I see it now... the stink of petrino

Posted on 10/30/14 at 9:22 pm
Posted by vengeanceofrain
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Posted on 10/30/14 at 9:22 pm
i'm watcihng l'ville emplode. this looks like arkansas with a different offense.


we won't win shite until we get rid of the stink of the petrino players. i don't know what the hell he did but we can't win with it.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 10/30/14 at 9:25 pm to
I've watched this game before.

See: Arkansas vs Alabama 2010.
Posted by Hogsrunwild
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/30/14 at 9:36 pm to
Considering HIS players are the only ones to have won a conference game while at Arkansas...

L'Ville losing to #2 team in the nation, I thought teams got a free pass when they played highly ranked teams, especially in a HC's first few years.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 10/30/14 at 9:39 pm to
So we now have two big game bobs in college football
Posted by vengeanceofrain
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Posted on 10/30/14 at 9:51 pm to
nobody shits the bed like bobby p
Posted by vengeanceofrain
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Posted on 10/30/14 at 9:52 pm to
INT to ice it on this drive
Posted by Porky
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 6:18 am to
Not gonna lie...Petrino can certainly develop top notch QBs and receivers.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 6:30 am to
He's a great OC.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 7:02 am to
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He's a great OC.

No doubt. He gave a lot of opposing SEC teams fits. He never beat Alabama during his four seasons at Arkansas but not many other SEC teams beat Alabama either.

ETA: There were things I didn't like about Bobby Petrino but winning SEC games wasn't one of them.
This post was edited on 10/31/14 at 7:08 am
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 8:19 am to
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Not gonna lie...Petrino can certainly develop top notch QBs and receivers.



Their offense is their Achilles' heel this year. Oddly enough, their defense is far and away their strength.

That'll undoubtedly change once Grantham is run off and Strong's players are processed.

This post was edited on 10/31/14 at 8:20 am
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 8:21 am to
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He never beat Alabama during his four seasons at Arkansas but not many other SEC teams beat Alabama either.


He was also 2-2 against Houston Nutt, and almost lost to Ole Miss' worst team ever.


Let that soak in for a minute.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 9:04 am to
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He was also 2-2 against Houston Nutt, and almost lost to Ole Miss' worst team ever.

Let that soak in for a minute.


I respect your opinion but I'm not going to criticize the man for his wins or losses.

I have no need to let it soak in. I'm too busy soaking in the desire for an SEC win. And for right now...just one.
This post was edited on 10/31/14 at 9:15 am
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 9:40 am to
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That'll undoubtedly change once Grantham is run off and Strong's players are processed.


This guy gets it. If Bobby P could hire a great DC his teams could be scary good. Especially playing in the Almost Competitive Conference.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 9:52 am to
i agree that petrino should have an overabundance of negative karma built up but i don't blame it on the players that came to our team. if i was a boy and good at football and college aged - i would have been a hog and i wouldn't want anyone saying i was a 'stink'.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 11:19 am to
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This guy gets it. If Bobby P could hire a great DC his teams could be scary good. Especially playing in the Almost Competitive Conference.



That's the thing - he won't/can't hire a good DC because his teams are wholly focused on squeezing every ounce of ability out of the offense, and defense is designed to serve as the tackling dummy in practice.

Not that Grantham's a good DC or anything, but Petrino tried to fire him before he'd even coached a game, and their defense has been their saving grace this year.

TG is the ultimate d-bag, but I don't doubt for a moment that he fell out of favor immediately with Petrino because he didn't share Petrino's belief that the sole purpose of his defense was to serve as practice fodder for the offense. There's a reason Ellis Johnson and Lorenzo Ward got hired and then quit weeks later to head to USCe in 2008, and it's likely the same reason it came out that Petrino was going to fire Grantham before the season started.
Posted by VagueMessage
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 3:01 pm to
I'm really on the fence about Petrino. On one hand, we had our two best seasons since the late '80s under him. On the other hand, we all inwardly knew that there was no way Petrino could last here until retirement before doing something characteristically douchebaggy, and predictably, our program tanked when that did happen.

Bielema came into a tough situation. He's a defensive-minded coach who is inheriting a defense from a guy who only even recruited defensive players because the rules state you need 11 guys on the field while the other team has the ball. The offensive philosophy is also a complete 180 degrees in difference. Combine both of these with the fact that we compete in the strongest division of the strongest conference in CFB, and I'm seriously struggling to think of a realistic and plausible situation that could somehow be worse.

We all want to believe that we're better off without Petrino; that we didn't get rid of the Golden Goose, and seeing debacles like this help with that. I know we've choked away two winnable games this year, so I can't be too harsh on Bobby. But come on. 21-0 is a pretty sound lead to blow, #2 team or not. Even though I'm hoping that Bielema is the one to lead the program, it's far from hope believing that Petrino was never going to win us an SEC Championship. The SEC is just too hard for his style of play when you couple that with the fact that his personality couldn't allow him to recruit for shite.

All of this would be so much easier for the more critical people to accept if we had fired Petrino after he finally had an 8-5 season - which probably would have been 2012. But of course, he got fired after going 11-2 and after trending upward every year for four years, so naturally the idiots think he was going to continue to do so until he reached 14-0 and won a NC.

Nonetheless, I'm grateful for the life he breathed into a program that was decimated by years of underachieving with Houston Nutt.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 4:09 pm to
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Nonetheless, I'm grateful for the life he breathed into a program that was decimated by years of underachieving with Houston Nutt.


With one caveat.. did he, or did he not leave us in a bigger mess than HDN did? this is the difficult part for me. We were in shambles following the Petrino debacle and smiley the clowns interim with the team. I mean dirt bag poor.

He raised us up a bit, and dropped us harder than I even could possibly have imagined.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12375 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 4:40 pm to
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With one caveat.. did he, or did he not leave us in a bigger mess than HDN did? this is the difficult part for me. We were in shambles following the Petrino debacle and smiley the clowns interim with the team. I mean dirt bag poor.

He raised us up a bit, and dropped us harder than I even could possibly have imagined.


Totally agree.

Petrino far and away left us in a worse situation than Nutt did - Petrino should have gone to a bowl in year 1 and did get to a bowl in year 2 and was an officiating screwjob at Florida from winning 9 games with that team.

Bert has a much better coaching staff and turned in the worst record in history in year 1 with the thinnest, most talent-deficient team we've ever fielded, and it's an uphill climb to have an outside shot at making a bowl game in year 2.

Nutt sucks then and now, but anyone who thinks Petrino's dumpster fire isn't worse needs their head checked.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42346 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 6:56 pm to
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Nutt sucks then and now, but anyone who thinks Petrino's dumpster fire isn't worse needs their head checked.


The great thing is JLS is there to take all the blame for the situation with these people, him and zero recruiting classes signed.

Petrino took over a team that won 18 games the two years prior to a 5 win season, I know "all that talent was gone", well, Bert took over a team that won 15 games the two years prior and all that talent was again gone.
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