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re: So who do we pull for from here on out?
Posted on 10/30/14 at 12:16 pm to HinesvilleThrill
Posted on 10/30/14 at 12:16 pm to HinesvilleThrill
the only thing we actually need is for missouri to lose one.
we are in the playoffs if we win out regardless. so, the next thing we need to make sure of is getting to the SECC with 2 losses. that means missouri needs to lose. that is literally the only thing we need to cheer for.
of course, we also might as well cheer against anyone rated higher than us because that 1 seed would be neat.
we are in the playoffs if we win out regardless. so, the next thing we need to make sure of is getting to the SECC with 2 losses. that means missouri needs to lose. that is literally the only thing we need to cheer for.
of course, we also might as well cheer against anyone rated higher than us because that 1 seed would be neat.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 12:21 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
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the only thing we actually need is for missouri to lose one.
This.
frick Auburn and the rest of the SEC...
I would like Auburn to have lose their next two, come into Athens all demoralized and get whooped. Then go get curb stomped by Bama.
7-5 Auburn at the end of the year would be better than us beating a 9-1 Auburn team
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:11 pm to DawgsLife
Everybody seems to think that by winning the SEC we get an automatic bid. I am not one of those people. If the west eats itself where everybody has two or three losses, and we win the sec title game, we won't go with oregon, fsu, TCU, Michigan State, and Notre dame out there.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:15 pm to JCdawg
Same thing I said and no one would listen, either...
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:33 pm to JCdawg
That's what you think. Many others think otherwise. NOBODY here, or even on the committee for that matter, actually know what will or should happen if that scenario plays out. We're speculating.
The odds of every team you listed winning out are essentially nil. In all likelihood, there will be multiple losses above us in the rankings over the next 6 weeks. There are 6 teams ahead of us right now outside of the SEC. Those 6 teams, combined, have 28 regular season games left with 10 ranked opponents and a handful of conference titles. You think they're all going to win out?
IF we win the SEC title, we're not going to be competing with 6 one loss teams. My guess is we're competing with 2.
The odds of every team you listed winning out are essentially nil. In all likelihood, there will be multiple losses above us in the rankings over the next 6 weeks. There are 6 teams ahead of us right now outside of the SEC. Those 6 teams, combined, have 28 regular season games left with 10 ranked opponents and a handful of conference titles. You think they're all going to win out?
IF we win the SEC title, we're not going to be competing with 6 one loss teams. My guess is we're competing with 2.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:44 pm to UGAalum08
Good point, but do Oregon, FSU, TCU, Michigan State, and ND play each other? So, its not possible - if those teams don't play each other - for them to not lose again? And, if that scenario of the SEC west comes about, how can we be chosen against others (if we win the SECCG)?
This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:48 pm to Spaceman Spiff
No, but 28 games is a lot of games to win and 10 ranked opponents are a lot of ranked opponents to take down.
Wish I had some software that could crunch numbers, or hours to sit around and do it myself, but I don't. It would be interesting to see the average record of top 10 teams over a 28 game stretch. I guarantee it's nowhere close to 28-0.
Wish I had some software that could crunch numbers, or hours to sit around and do it myself, but I don't. It would be interesting to see the average record of top 10 teams over a 28 game stretch. I guarantee it's nowhere close to 28-0.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:53 pm to Spaceman Spiff
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And, if that scenario of the SEC west comes about, how can we be chosen against others (if we win the SECCG)?
IF the SECW cannibalizes itself and all teams have 2 losses going into the SECCG and IF those teams ahead of us go 28-0, sure, I can't say with confidence that a win for us would be a lock. I do think we still have a chance though, and a damn good one. We have 1 loss, so does everybody else except for FSU. We also potentially have two wins over a top 10 opponent which only one or two other teams may be able to claim.
Here are the possible scenarios for all SECW teams to have 2 losses:
LSU wins out, beating Alabama; Alabama beats Mississippi State and Auburn; Ole Miss loses to Auburn and beats Mississippi State; Auburn beats Georgia. Now Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Mississippi State and Ole Miss all have two losses. Or Alabama beats LSU and Mississippi State, but loses to Auburn; Ole Miss beats Auburn and Mississippi State, but loses to Arkansas; Auburn beats Georgia and Alabama. Now, Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi State and Ole Miss all have two losses.
Odds that happens?
It's these slim odds that make me say with fairly strong confidence: if we win the SEC, we are almost certainly a lock. Not guaranteed, but all 2,891 chips have to fall in a precise order for it not to happen.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:54 pm to UGAalum08
Got your point. Let's think about this - FSU wins out as do three of the others also win the rest... Now, factor in my scenario and how the committee doesn't think our win quality is good... Now, how does that affect things?
Posted on 10/30/14 at 1:58 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
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he only thing we actually need is for missouri to lose one.
we are in the playoffs if we win out regardless. so, the next thing we need to make sure of is getting to the SECC with 2 losses. that means missouri needs to lose. that is literally the only thing we need to cheer for.
We don't make the playoffs as an SEC champ with 2 losses.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:05 pm to Spaceman Spiff
At the end of the regular season, Miss. State is the only undefeated. FSU, Oregon, TCU, Michigan St. and UGA are 11-1. What will the CFP rankings look like that next Tuesday?
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:14 pm to DaveyDownerDawg
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We don't make the playoffs as an SEC champ with 2 losses.
agreed. what's your point? if we lose a second game, you dont want to go to the SECC anymore? i do, so ill still root for a missouri loss since nothing else matters, as i said.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:18 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
It wasn't clear to me with what you posted. Of course even with two losses I want to go to the SECCG.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:20 pm to Spaceman Spiff
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Let's think about this - FSU wins out as do three of the others also win the rest... Now, factor in my scenario and how the committee doesn't think our win quality is good... Now, how does that affect things?
FSU - Undefeated. ACC champ (lol).
Oregon - 1 loss to (NR) Arizona. PAC12 champ. Winner over #7 Mich State, #18 UCLA, #17 Utah, #16 ASU (title game)
TCU - 1 loss to #5 Baylor. No conference title. Winner over #4 OU, #15 Okie State, #20 WVU, #9 KState
Mich State - 1 loss to #3 Oregon. B10 champ. Winner over #19 Nebraska, #16 OSU, #13 Nebraska (title game)
You didn't specify what happens in the West.
Best case scenario for us:
UGA - 1 loss to #24 USCe (damnit). SEC champ. Winner over #16 Clemson, #23 Mizzou, #3 Auburn, #1 SECW
Worst case scenario:
UGA - 1 loss to #24 USCe (damnit). SEC champ. Winner over #16 Clemson, #23 Mizzou, #8 Auburn, #8 SECW
The rankings for future games are estimated. I found them in my a-hole.
IMO, we outrank Michigan State in even the worst case scenario. I still don't think there are 3 one loss teams at the end of the season, but I'll play your game anyways
Posted on 10/30/14 at 2:27 pm to UGAalum08
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I found them in my a-hole
Posted on 10/30/14 at 6:50 pm to DawgsLife
I want Bama to end the season with four losses. Auburn needs to win until we beat them.
Posted on 10/30/14 at 8:35 pm to HinesvilleThrill
I want us, FSU, ole miss and Norte dame in the final 4....we walk into a natty.....
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