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re: Is anybody else satisfied with this outcome?

Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
2989 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:24 pm to
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What lesson is he learning?


I think it's very likely he regrets not being able to play and support the team. I also think he regrets losing his chance at the Heisman. And he probably feels like he disappointed some people. Those are things that most people would regret and try to avoid in the future.
Posted by Hobnail
ATL
Member since Oct 2014
3197 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:31 pm to
I'm sure he deeply regrets it. AJ Green said his 4 game suspension was one of the most difficult things he ever went through. I feel bad for him, but not really because in 3 months he will be making more money than he will know what to do with and he still has the chance to come back and make an impact. At the end of the day-

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
6994 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:32 pm to
I'm pissed about the injustice of the Gurley suspension and even more disgusted with the cretins who've been piling on Gurley; however, UGA didn't need Todd for Mizzou and Arkansas and shouldn't need him for Florida and Kentucky. There is the potential of a very positive outcome if the Dawgs take out the trash prior to Auburn and then Todd comes back fresh and hungry.

Only Gurley's current teammates have any right to be critical of his actions and they all seem to have been supportive.

Go Dawgs.
Posted by Lucius Clay
Member since Sep 2012
3420 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:35 pm to
If Gurley wants to redeem himself and turn the college football world upside down, he needs to shock everyone by coming back for his senior year.

Probably the Heisman would then be his for the taking. And he could stun the materialistic culture of pro sports, too.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
2989 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:39 pm to
I think the NCAA was going to get involved once a dealer pointed to a bunch of autographs he had for sale and said "I paid Todd Gurley for those".

Your complaints seem to be directed at UGA for following the rules. That is the way that Georgia does things and you might want to accept that reality. Some of us actually like it that way. Additionally, it was by far the prudent course of action in this case involving potentially hostile witness(es) and a player who had been imprudent over an extended period. Rolling the dice with probation would have been a bad choice, and fortunately Greg McGarity and UGA administration handled this correctly.

Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 5:14 pm to
Regrets not being able to play, maybe. Regrets not being able to support the team - sorry, his prior acts clearly show he never did.

A list of regrets is not the same as learning a lesson, however.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27288 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 5:40 pm to
Once again do you for one second A&M and FSU are risking any type of probation for the way they handled their cases?Not for a minute,,,
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59350 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

If Gurley wants to redeem himself and turn the college football world upside down, he needs to shock everyone by coming back for his senior year.


That would be a thing of such staggering beauty, grown men would openly weep in the streets. Snowball's chance in hell of happening, but dammit if I would grin from ear to ear if it did...
Posted by Leghumper
Lawrenceville, Georgia
Member since Dec 2003
2330 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

TG made bad choices, but he's learning a lesson despite some who claim otherwise. That's how young people mature, at least the ones who are capable of doing so


nice post Ward Cleaver.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
2989 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

Regrets not being able to play, maybe. Regrets not being able to support the team - sorry, his prior acts clearly show he never did.


Things that are clear to you aren't quite as clear to me. It's not infrequent that young people make bad choices without fully anticipating the consequences that seem so obvious to others. Without some compelling evidence that Gurley is a sociopath, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he values and supports his team.

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A list of regrets is not the same as learning a lesson, however.


Maybe not, but it's a first step. Like I said in the OP, the lessons are only learned by those with the ability to mature. In light of the fact that Gurley has otherwise managed to live withing the law as far as I know, once again, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

If you're completely convinced that this proves Gurley is an incorrigible sociopath, incapable of caring or maturing, then you either know something I don't know or you may want to avoid having kids.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 5:52 pm
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
2989 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 5:50 pm to
quote:

Once again do you for one second A&M and FSU are risking any type of probation for the way they handled their cases?Not for a minute,,,


I don't know. I do believe that UGA faced that risk in this case, and the fact that it was our 2nd case in a few years made it even more risky to ignore or cover up. It's not a risk I would've taken and I wouldn't have supported a decision by UGA to take that risk.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

Without some compelling evidence that Gurley is a sociopath, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he values and supports his team.


Holy hyperbole, Batman! He jumps from being stupid and selfish to a sociopath in one leap in your mind....nice. The evidence that he doesn't much care about the team is the selling of the autographs. That's pretty clear "I'm gonna get mine" behavior, and it cost the team for four games, yet his draft stock is likely unchanged.


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If you're completely convinced that this proves Gurley is an incorrigible sociopath, incapable of caring or maturing...


The Man In Black said it best

Posted by bigdawg7780
SC
Member since Oct 2013
2788 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:14 pm to
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
2989 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 10:58 pm to
quote:

Holy hyperbole, Batman! He jumps from being stupid and selfish to a sociopath in one leap in your mind....nice.


You didn't say he was stupid and selfish. You said he clearly has never supported the team and you insinuated he wouldn't learn any lesson from hurting the team. That would be consistent with a sociopath.

I think it's unlikely, because Gurley's history isn't suggestive of that kind of personality, autograph signing notwithstanding. More likely he took advantage of an offer for easy money and underestimated the risks of hurting himself and others. Now he knows.

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