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An ethics question, also:classic moments in Lsu-Ole Miss history
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:23 pm
A friend sent me this video, which reminded me of an LSU-OM game from a few years back.
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Do you think it was a good thing for Miles to do, or seen as a dick move? Personally I think he was trying to be nice, but a lot of people were upset.
Not trying to start a flame. The past couple years of OM-LSU football have been pretty exciting and I think both teams are pretty equal these days, with Hugh at the helm.
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Do you think it was a good thing for Miles to do, or seen as a dick move? Personally I think he was trying to be nice, but a lot of people were upset.
Not trying to start a flame. The past couple years of OM-LSU football have been pretty exciting and I think both teams are pretty equal these days, with Hugh at the helm.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:25 pm to TheIndulger
I'm no LSU fan, but the mad hatter can do no wrong. If he did it, then it is good.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:27 pm to BearBait09
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If he did it, then it is good.
2009 spiking the ball with 1 second on the clock?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:28 pm to TheIndulger
I think Les was also upset with Mettenburger for the play that got us to the 1. He was just wanted to hand the ball off to the running back and eat the clock. I don't think Les wanted to score again (before the big play that set this up).
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:29 pm to TheIndulger
A few things about that series:
First, Mettenburger ran for a BIG gain just before which Miles was NOT pleased with. The kneel was almost a reprimand for Mett.
Second, on Mississippi's next possession, they simply ran the ball, and time off the clock, to end the game.
Third, why risk injury to players with the game in the bag?
First, Mettenburger ran for a BIG gain just before which Miles was NOT pleased with. The kneel was almost a reprimand for Mett.
Second, on Mississippi's next possession, they simply ran the ball, and time off the clock, to end the game.
Third, why risk injury to players with the game in the bag?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:31 pm to TheIndulger
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Do you think it was a good thing for Miles to do, or seen as a dick move?
Miles in this situation was either:
(a) being a complete dick
or
(b) completely oblivous and out of touch with reality
I think it was (b). I think Miles was trying to be nice, but his sense of reality is a little "different." He was oblivious to the fact that this was one of the worst things you could do in this situation in terms of showing up the other team.
ETA: I could buy the not wanting to risk any injuries too. That's a possibility as to why he would do that.
I still think Miles just didn't want to score to show Ole Miss up, so instead he did something that showed them up even more.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:32 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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If he did it, then it is good.
2009 spiking the ball with 1 second on the clock?
Didn't he do good for Ole Miss?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:32 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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2009 spiking the ball with 1 second on the clock?
A spooky wind howls in the distance and a football is thrown deep and picked off when a field goal would have sufficed. The ghost of poor game management present appears yet the protagonist is too myopic to see it.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:39 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Henry Jones Jr
An ethics question, also:classic moments in Lsu-Ole Miss history
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If he did it, then it is good.
2009 spiking the ball with 1 second on the clock?
Yet AGAIN, that was all Jordan Jefferson.
Miles' so called 'spiking' motion was actually a plea to the ref that the LSU receiver was down and that there was no 'fumble' after an OM DB ran off with the ball. (He stated this on his call-in radio show later that week.)
There were only four choices to make when the players and refs all ran down and got situated on the OL 3 yard line:
(1) JJ could throw the ball in the end zone
(2) JJ could run up the middle to try and score
(3) JJ could hand off
(4) JJ could look back at the sideline and end up screwing up and losing the game.
JJ chose # 4. I don't even know why he was looking at the sideline - there was NOTHING they could do, other than to tell him to hurry up and snap the ball (which the Asst coaches were doing).
Why? Because LSU had NO TIMEOUTS, and the clock started UPON THE OFFICIALS SIGNAL (winding of his arm)..
All JJ could do was to throw it in the end zone, and he did not.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:49 pm to spslayto
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Les was also upset with Mettenburger for the play that got us to the 1.
Correct. Mett audibled out of the called play and ran the bootleg to get LSU down to the one. At that point they had to mercy knee them.
Without Mett's aubidle then LSU would've likely ran the ball in the midfield, got some first downs and then punted, if necessary.
The bootleg changed how this game was supposed to end and it provided us great cannon fodder on here. The 5 minute mercy knee!
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:58 pm to Stuttgart Tiger
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Correct. Mett audibled out of the called play and ran the bootleg to get LSU down to the one.
You're still no totally correct. Mettenberger scored on the play. A review should have occurred. Les doesn't like to make HDN feel bad, though.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:01 pm to elposter
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Miles in this situation was either:
(a) being a complete dick
or
(b) completely oblivous and out of touch with reality
I think it was (b). I think Miles was trying to be nice, but his sense of reality is a little "different." He was oblivious to the fact that this was one of the worst things you could do in this situation in terms of showing up the other team.
i think miles gets away with any and everything because he's odd/goofy/strange. therefore, he could be an outright dick and people would simply let it slide because it's les.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:04 pm to elposter
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Miles in this situation was either:
(a) being a complete dick
or
(b) completely oblivous and out of touch with reality
I think it was (b). I think Miles was trying to be nice, but his sense of reality is a little "different." He was oblivious to the fact that this was one of the worst things you could do in this situation in terms of showing up the other team.
Wrong and Wrong
the answer is
(c) He was pissed that his 3rd string QB (Mettenberger) audibled out of the play and ran a naked QB bootleg to the 1 yard line up by 50 so he made him kneel it out as punishment
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:35 pm to Tiger1242
Is that really why? Seems silly. Why would he punish mett by not letting someone else score? He only did it because the score was so lopsided.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:09 pm to MetryTyger
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Yet AGAIN, that was all Jordan Jefferson.
Miles' so called 'spiking' motion was actually a plea to the ref that the LSU receiver was down and that there was no 'fumble' after an OM DB ran off with the ball. (He stated this on his call-in radio show later that week.)
There were only four choices to make when the players and refs all ran down and got situated on the OL 3 yard line:
(1) JJ could throw the ball in the end zone
(2) JJ could run up the middle to try and score
(3) JJ could hand off
(4) JJ could look back at the sideline and end up screwing up and losing the game.
JJ chose # 4. I don't even know why he was looking at the sideline - there was NOTHING they could do, other than to tell him to hurry up and snap the ball (which the Asst coaches were doing).
Why? Because LSU had NO TIMEOUTS, and the clock started UPON THE OFFICIALS SIGNAL (winding of his arm)..
All JJ could do was to throw it in the end zone, and he did not.
Or they, you know, could have had their field goal team ready to get on the field.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:15 pm to MetryTyger
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Yet AGAIN, that was all Jordan Jefferson. Miles' so called 'spiking' motion was actually a plea to the ref that the LSU receiver was down and that there was no 'fumble' after an OM DB ran off with the ball. (He stated this on his call-in radio show later that week.) There were only four choices to make when the players and refs all ran down and got situated on the OL 3 yard line: (1) JJ could throw the ball in the end zone (2) JJ could run up the middle to try and score (3) JJ could hand off (4) JJ could look back at the sideline and end up screwing up and losing the game.
Do you really think Miles is going to admit that he was signaling for the spike?
The blame lies on both Miles and JJ.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:20 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Or they, you know, could have had their field goal team ready to get on the field.
With one second and no timeouts? Only doable in Baton Rouge!
Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:23 pm to TheIndulger
If your opponents wanted you to stop scoring they would stop you from scoring.
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