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re: Gurley secrets coming out.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:08 pm to Spaceman Spiff
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:08 pm to Spaceman Spiff
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If it was any other rule, I could follow you and agree with you
So only certain rules are supposed to be followed?
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When I do 85 in a 70, does that make me a bad person?
Once again, you can't have it one way and not another.
It's not that certain rules shouldn't be followed. It's that for the same reason you or I drive faster than the speed limit, Gurley chose to make money by simply writing his name. Both have consequences. That doesn't stop you from driving over the speed limit. It didn't stop Gurley from writing his name.
My momma once quoted a wise man who said "Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone". I think the same applies to you here, sir.
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:09 pm to athensdawg33
quote:I hate it when people misquote the Bible like that by taking it out of context...
My momma once quoted a wise man who said "Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone". I think the same applies to you here, sir.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:14 pm to athensdawg33
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My momma once quoted a wise man who said "Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone". I think the same applies to you here, sir.
Definitely a good qoute. Not dumb enough to do 85 in a 70, so that point is irrelevant. The fact is, he knew what would happen and he was told not to do it, yet he continued. And he knew the consequences of getting caught.
The rule, however ridiculous it may be, is still a rule in the books that has specified consequences. So, with him knowing the importance of his role in the offense, chose to continue this since he has been here. And, to top it off, he was warned. So, he knew what the penalty was and what affect it would have on his team. But you can overlook that, eh?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:19 pm to FooManChoo
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I hate it when people misquote the Bible like that by taking it out of context..
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momma once quoted a wise man who said "Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone". I think the same applies to you here, sir.
The Bible says a lot about ethics and consequences for your actions.
James 2:10 ESV
For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it.
Proverbs 22:6 ESV
Train up a child in the way he should go; even when he is old he will not depart from it.
Galatians 6:7 ESV
Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap.
Proverbs 29:15 ESV
The rod and reproof give wisdom, but a child left to himself brings shame to his mother.
Proverbs 25:26 ESV
Like a muddied spring or a polluted fountain is a righteous man who gives way before the wicked
Oh, and doing 85 in a 70 doesn't make you a bad person, it makes you a criminal guilty of a misdemeanor. It also makes you a selfish jerk that puts other's lives in jeopardy.
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This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:21 pm to Spaceman Spiff
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Not dumb enough to do 85 in a 70, so that point is irrelevant. The fact is, he knew what would happen and he was told not to do it, yet he continued. And he knew the consequences of getting caught.
Fine...going 71 in a 70 is breaking the law too. However, you might speed, but you don't rob a bank or murder someone....so frick off with your holier than thou art bit....
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And, to top it off, he was warned. So, he knew what the penalty was and what affect it would have on his team. But you can overlook that, eh?
Everyone is warned of EVERY rule the first week of each season. It's not like we have proof they came and talked to him seperately about it. The same you are warned about driving 71 in a 70 and know the consequences...
Sometimes, people see a thousand other people sliding by a simple rule that in the act didnt hurt anyone and seeing everyone else NOT get caught. He decided to do it just like the thousands of others. He is a 20 year old kid.
Yes, he has a bright future and will make millions in a few months. Yet, he wanted that "flat bill hat" Today....and was convinced that everyone else doing and never get caught.
Todd Gurley did wrong and he is to blame, but you fricks acting like you are all high and mighty are retarded.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:22 pm to Spaceman Spiff
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So, he knew what the penalty might be and what affect it might have on his team.
Important change. He took a risk. He wasn't likely to get caught, but he obviously did. Now he's living with the consequences.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:22 pm to FooManChoo
Not to get this thread way off topic, but I'd love to know how I took that out of context. Regardless, if I did, the same premise applies. All you guys bashing Gurley for breaking the rule because he knew it was a rule that carried consequences that could hurt others...none of y'all ever go 5 or 10 over the speed limit?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:24 pm to Spaceman Spiff
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The fact is, he knew what would happen and he was told not to do it, yet he continued. And he knew the consequences of getting caught.
As I've pointed out many times in this thread, what Todd did is (as far as we know) extremely common. The Stephen Garcia SI article is the most recent evidence to support his. I don't think Todd did or would have done this had he not known that all kinds of others were doing it as well. We've seen other current players with hundreds of sequential signed autographs on the market. Everybody knows they did it as well, yet they have not slighted their teammates until they are caught. Is that what you're saying?
Todd did this under the assumption that he would not be caught, just as I assume there are likely 100 other currently active players who are doing the exact same thing. Unfortunately for Todd, he was caught.
Very similarly, I do speed when I drive, because I assume I will not be caught...however, if I am, I pay the consequence and don't complain about the rule, because I fully understood what I was doing and why I have to pay for it. According to the law, speeding while driving puts other lives at risk, yet I admittedly do it as do millions of other Americans. I personally don't think that 85 in a 70 puts lives at risk, but the law would disagree. I disagree with the law and bend it slightly. Am I a bad person for that? If your answer is yes, then we will agree to disagree. If your answer is no: When I am doing 85 in a 70 and run a family off the road, killing all occupants, do I suddenly move from good to bad?
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:27 pm to UGAalum08
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Very similarly, I do speed when I drive, because I assume I will not be caught...however, if I am, I pay the consequence and don't complain about the rule, because I fully understood what I was doing and why I have to pay for it. According to the law, speeding while driving puts other lives at risk, yet I admittedly do it as do millions of other Americans. I personally don't think that 85 in a 70 puts lives at risk, but the law would disagree. I disagree with the law and bend it slightly. Am I a bad person for that? If your answer is yes, then we will agree to disagree. If your answer is no: When I am doing 85 in a 70 and run a family off the road, killing all occupants, do I suddenly move from good to bad?
Can't argue with that!
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:29 pm to Spaceman Spiff
Thank you sir.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:36 pm to UGAalum08
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secrets coming out.
Here's a non-secret for everyone......
The more tattoos and flat-bills that a man has, and the longer his hair is, the poorer his judgment most likely is.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:44 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:47 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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secrets coming out.
Here's a non-secret for everyone......
The more tattoos and flat-bills that a man has, and the longer his hair is, the poorer his judgment most likely is.
Yea, I bet you are one of those people who believes in profiling Muslim terrorists.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:50 pm to davesdawgs
Well this is taking a nice turn.
First of all, people of any race can have long hair, tattoos and flat bills. So this is not racist. Assuming it is racist is racist.
And "profiling" has become a bad word but represents sound logic. If I assume dark clouds mean a better chance of rain than a clear sky, am I profiling the sky?
First of all, people of any race can have long hair, tattoos and flat bills. So this is not racist. Assuming it is racist is racist.
And "profiling" has become a bad word but represents sound logic. If I assume dark clouds mean a better chance of rain than a clear sky, am I profiling the sky?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:50 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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Here's a non-secret for everyone......
The more tattoos and flat-bills that a man has, and the longer his hair is, the poorer his judgment most likely is.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:02 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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The more tattoos and flat-bills that a man has, and the longer his hair is, the poorer his judgment most likely is.
Ive always had the feeling that this describes a majority of posters on the SECRant.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:09 pm to athensdawg33
quote:Not just you; most people do.
Not to get this thread way off topic, but I'd love to know how I took that out of context.
It wasn't a phrase meant to say you can't judge anyone for anything ever or that you can't call out anyone's sins or wrong-doings because we all do bad things.
The point was to show the hypocrisy of the Pharisees who were trying to "get" Jesus on breaking the law. The law required that both the man and the woman caught in adultery to be stoned and that the witnesses to the act should cast the first stones, yet it was only the woman they brought to Jesus and none of them apparently were witnesses to the act.
What Jesus then said to the woman after getting her off the hook (even though she could have legally been put to death) was that she should go and sin no more. That's not really the message people focus on when they quote this passage, because everyone likes to do what they want to do and no one likes to be called out for doing something they shouldn't do.
quote:No one here (that I'm aware of) is bashing Gurley because he's imperfect, but because his careless actions hurt the team, and by extension, the fans of the team who cheer for the Dawgs every Saturday. Some of us are disappointed in him because we believed he wasn't the type of player to put himself first. I wouldn't give two licks about Gurley if he played for any other team besides Georgia, but because he represents the Red and Black, his actions carry more weight with me.
Regardless, if I did, the same premise applies. All you guys bashing Gurley for breaking the rule because he knew it was a rule that carried consequences that could hurt others...none of y'all ever go 5 or 10 over the speed limit?
I don't live under some delusion that our players are saints, but we often times look up to them as representatives to the school and the team we have a close connection with (real or perceived) and we don't want to see the team or the school tarnished through their bad behavior. Some people don't care at all so long as we win, but I'm not one of those. People in the spotlight (rightly or wrongly) tend to be held to a higher standard, and I hoped that Gurley would continue to excel at UGA without having off-the-field problems like many others have had.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:09 pm to Broncothor
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And "profiling" has become a bad word but represents sound logic. If I assume dark clouds mean a better chance of rain than a clear sky, am I profiling the sky?
Yes, please cease and desist before you get yourself in serious trouble.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:13 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Well isn't that the message that all amateur football players get? "No I in Team" "Family" etc? I suspect that family is the exact motivation behind this whole thing.
Exactly Crow. We don't know for sure, of course but, we do know that TG has said multiple times that everything he does is for his mom and family.
Every self-righteous fricknut in here crucifying this kid would choose mamma over a fricking football team...and if they didn't? Well, there is something to blast someone over.
Many of you will be surprised when you make it to the ends of your lives to learn that you aren't the pillars of morality and justice that you perceive yourselves to be.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:17 pm to FooManChoo
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Not to get this thread way off topic, but I'd love to know how I took that out of context.
Not just you; most people do.
It wasn't a phrase meant to say you can't judge anyone for anything ever or that you can't call out anyone's sins or wrong-doings because we all do bad things.
The point was to show the hypocrisy of the Pharisees who were trying to "get" Jesus on breaking the law. The law required that both the man and the woman caught in adultery to be stoned and that the witnesses to the act should cast the first stones, yet it was only the woman they brought to Jesus and none of them apparently were witnesses to the act.
What Jesus then said to the woman after getting her off the hook (even though she could have legally been put to death) was that she should go and sin no more. That's not really the message people focus on when they quote this passage, because everyone likes to do what they want to do and no one likes to be called out for doing something they shouldn't do.
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Regardless, if I did, the same premise applies. All you guys bashing Gurley for breaking the rule because he knew it was a rule that carried consequences that could hurt others...none of y'all ever go 5 or 10 over the speed limit?
No one here (that I'm aware of) is bashing Gurley because he's imperfect, but because his careless actions hurt the team, and by extension, the fans of the team who cheer for the Dawgs every Saturday. Some of us are disappointed in him because we believed he wasn't the type of player to put himself first. I wouldn't give two licks about Gurley if he played for any other team besides Georgia, but because he represents the Red and Black, his actions carry more weight with me.
I don't live under some delusion that our players are saints, but we often times look up to them as representatives to the school and the team we have a close connection with (real or perceived) and we don't want to see the team or the school tarnished through their bad behavior. Some people don't care at all so long as we win, but I'm not one of those. People in the spotlight (rightly or wrongly) tend to be held to a higher standard, and I hoped that Gurley would continue to excel at UGA without having off-the-field problems like many others have had.
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