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How important is the Missouri Game?

Posted on 10/26/14 at 1:46 pm
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 10/26/14 at 1:46 pm
To me, it's crucial. Missouri has been Jekyll and Hyde this season. I know it's in Columbia, but it's a very winnable game for UK, and I think it's extremely important for UK to go in there and continue to play well on defense, offense, and have a decent game on ST. Need to score first too.

I think a win in Columbia could springboard this team to 8 wins.

If they don't win another game, they have still been phenomenal this season, but I think the comeback from the Joker years reaches completion with a win this weekend.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 10/26/14 at 2:09 pm to
Depends on who is viewing the question

Georgia fans would love UK to win as it knocks the Tigers out
Missouri fans would love for the Tigers to win as it may cripple Georgia

Georgia still has 5 games - while many have just 4, and LSU has only 3 left - and their schedule has several games of note (WLOCP, DSOR, and COFH) so UK win gives them some breathing room. It also give UK a real hope for the classic trap game. UGA comes to CWS between WLOCP and DSOR and that really should help the Cats.

Viewed this way
a) Kentucky has already exceeded expectations for this year
b) Loss this weekend ended all hopes for a MNC run
c) 1 more win and they are bowl eligible
d) 2+ wins and they raise the bowl stock accordingly

4 games remain and anything between 0-4 (5-7) and 4-0 (9-3) is possible.
#1 @ Missouri - Tigers seem up and down and not playing well at home are positives for Cats
#2 vs Georgia - looking like classic trap for Georgia
#3 @ Tennessee - Who knows but certainly winnable
#4 @ Louisville - gut feeling tells me this is the easiest win of the 4

If you feel UK wins in Columbia and springboards from there, why not think 9 wins instead of 8?
If you feel the need to erase Joker is the issue, then beating Georgia is the bigger win
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/26/14 at 2:25 pm to
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If you feel UK wins in Columbia and springboards from there, why not think 9 wins instead of 8?


Because Tennessee looks to have found their QB, I don't see us beating Georgia, and who knows what can happen in the UofL game.

Anything more than maybe 1-2 more wins is loftier expectations then we should probably have for a young, inconsistent team.

As far as Mizzou is concerned, their defense is good. Towles is going to have to be more selective in some of his throws and get the ball out of his hands instead of sitting back and taking the sack. With it being on the road and after a big game against State, it's going to depend on how they respond.

As to how important it is? It's probably a good benchmark of how far they've turned the corner but as I've said before they've already exceeded expectations whether they win out or lose out. So I don't think it necessarily has a bearing on going forward with this team.
This post was edited on 10/26/14 at 2:26 pm
Posted by reedus23
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:12 pm to
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I know it's in Columbia, but it's a very winnable game for UK


I'm not in a position to answer the question in your thread title, but it is most definitely a winnable game for UK. Our offense is putrid. If your DLine sneezes, Mauk will start scrambling like a chicken with his head cut off.

Our D is pretty solid. The DLine has been stout. The LB's have improved nearly every game. On ST, just don't let Murphy return a kick and you'll be fine.

It seems to me the obvious key to the game will be turnovers. When Mizzou gets them, they do well. When they don't, they struggle. If y'all protect the ball it will be a game.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 6:32 pm to
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Our offense is putrid. If your DLine sneezes, Mauk will start scrambling like a chicken with his head cut off.


This is why I like the team boards, so much more honesty, but I guess that is what it's for.

Good luck tomorrow! I hope for a UK win, but I'm expecting a tough game.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 11/1/14 at 7:33 pm to
I'm guessing I'm the only one who thought it was important. Neal Brown apparently didn't think so. I would imagine DJ Eliot will want to fight him to give his charges some relief.
Posted by TheFolker
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Posted on 11/1/14 at 10:07 pm to
You're not the only one. This one hurt bad. Now you've got players questioning coaches, players calling out fans, wacko fans wackoing. Not what we needed going down the stretch when spirits were so high.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 11/2/14 at 11:22 am to
I don't know that I can blame players questioning coaches. I'd have a hard time biting my tongue on offense after that playcalling yesterday.

Calling out fans is just dumb. I saw Snodgrass' comment. They ought to be glad right now that there are enough fans that give a shite to be pissed.

Last night was the first time I was really, really disappointed in someone other than ST (who played well BTW, have to throw that in there). I still don't know what the frick Brown was calling.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 11/2/14 at 5:03 pm to
I hope Stoops and the offensive staff develop a game plan for this week that is more than running up the middle and throwing quick outs.
It's time to get creative. A 6th win would be such a huge deal for this team going forward, let's pull out all the stops and get at least one more win.
I do think we will play well against Georgia, but the offense has to show up and have a game plan for it to be a game after halftime.
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

I don't know that I can blame players questioning coaches. I'd have a hard time biting my tongue on offense after that playcalling yesterday.

Calling out fans is just dumb. I saw Snodgrass' comment. They ought to be glad right now that there are enough fans that give a shite to be pissed.

Last night was the first time I was really, really disappointed in someone other than ST (who played well BTW, have to throw that in there). I still don't know what the frick Brown was calling.



What on Earth happened (with the comments from coaches/players)?

I take it from your comment that UK never adjusted the offense? Did they even try to open up the passing game? I saw the first half but only bits and pieces of the second half.

The play calling in the first half was inexplicable, imo.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:41 pm to
Here is the monday (11/03 presser) LINK
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:47 pm to
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The play calling in the first half was inexplicable, imo.



Six pass attempts in the half, and not a 3rd down conversion till the 4th quarter should tell you all you need to know about the game plan.

I hope Stoops and Brown spend some quality time together this week and plan to do something this weekend to shake up the play calling.
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 8:24 pm to
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Six pass attempts in the half, and not a 3rd down conversion till the 4th quarter should tell you all you need to know about the game plan.

I hope Stoops and Brown spend some quality time together this week and plan to do something this weekend to shake up the play calling.


Sounds like they stuck to the same plan all game - whatever the hell that plan was. It was frustrating to watch, imo. Mizzou's defense was killing the short yardage game UK was trying to play in the first half. I couldn't believe it when they didn't give Towles any shots downfield given that (I don't count that INT before the half because they should've had Towles taking at least a few shots and getting into rhythm wayyyyy before that last minute drive).

What made it more perplexing to me is that Mizzou's strength is it's dline far more than it's secondary.

Stoops and Brown may have thought they could get away with being conservative in the first half because Mizzou's offense has struggled so much all season (I think they're 119th in offense) but Brown should've adjusted at the half when it became clear that the offensive gameplan wasn't working. I still think it's a bit risky to play conservative early on and particularly risky in a road game but I can at least understand the tendency to plan that way.

Did UK have any key injuries that might account for the gameplan?
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 8:25 pm
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