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re: How did Tennesee go 5-7 last year?

Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:01 am to
Posted by gatordmb89
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:01 am to
Stupidity of what statement?

Last yr, UTn had to not turn the ball over, and they could beat UF. The offense was non existent.

This yr, the same thing. Throwing the ball downfield and turning the ball over whether it be Int's or sack fumbles.

All you have to do is put together a ridiculously conservative gameplan to beat UF. The defense brakes eventually because they are on the field the entire game.

You guys are recruiting well. Zook and WM are both really good recruiters and fiery personalities. Looks like you guys got yourself a good recruiter but someone whose ability I question on game day. Good luck.
This post was edited on 10/23/14 at 11:02 am
Posted by LAREBEL2013
Hollywood, CA
Member since Feb 2014
97 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:05 am to
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I can't even deal with the stupidity of this statement. Look at the mess Dooley left the program in. These freshman UT has right now are the first freshman on campus that CBJ has had a full season to recruit. Just wait till the Vols are back, because when they are, its going to be scary.


Dooleys mess cant even come close to Nutts mess because, he beat Houston Nutt 52-14. Then Nutt came back the next year and went 2-10 while Dooley went 5-7....
Posted by Ancient Rome
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:05 am to
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. Looks like you guys got yourself a good recruiter but someone whose ability I question on game day. Good luck.



I would agree with that thus far. No excuse to losing to FL at home this year. At all.

I am not a fan of keeping Bajakian as OC, tbh. He has veteran SEC coaches on D, and look how much they have improved from last year to this year.

But on the flip side, Dooley not recruiting a single o-lineman in 2012 and our lack of depth there is destroying us.

It is a frustrating place to be in right now.
Posted by LAREBEL2013
Hollywood, CA
Member since Feb 2014
97 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:08 am to
quote:

UT had the toughest schedule in NCAA history @ #2 Oregon @ #1 Alabama @ #19 Florida #6 Georgia #11 South Carolina @ #9 Missouri #5 Auburn


Yeah that sure was a good #19 Florida team.....
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:09 am to
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How on earth could Hugh Freeze lead his first team in 2012 to a 7-6 record, when Butch Jones could barely salvage 5-7 last year


1). Harder schedule;
2). Played 1/2 season starting 3rd string True Freshman QB.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:22 am to
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UT had the toughest schedule in NCAA history @ #2 Oregon @ #1 Alabama @ #19 Florida #6 Georgia #11 South Carolina @ #9 Missouri #5 Auburn


quote:

Yeah that sure was a good #19 Florida team.....


That schedule still was one of the top 5 hardest schedules after end of the season rankings. UT's final SOS rankings that season were:

NCAA - #2
Anderson & Hester - #5
Colley Matrix - #4
Jeff Sagarin - #10
Billingsley Report - #6

What if Ole Miss ran a schedule like that in '12 (along with their SEC schedule), then 1/2 way through both Wallace and Mackey were unavailable...how much faith would you have had on Brunetti to carry you through?

Even with your first 2 QBs healthy you only beat Arkansas by 3 (the same week that Josh Dobbs got his first start for UT because Worley and Peterman were hurt). You lose that game and you are 5-7 and sitting at home...just like UT did in '13.

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This post was edited on 10/23/14 at 11:26 am
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:23 am to
quote:

you left of at the time #11 Georgia on 13 TN schedule

That's because I used EOS rankings (you know, the ones that actually matter).
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:24 am to
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UT had the toughest schedule in NCAA history

@ #2 Oregon
@ #1 Alabama
@ #19 Florida
#6 Georgia

#11 South Carolina
@ #9 Missouri
#5 Auburn

Posted by artompkins
Orange Beach, Al
Member since May 2010
5610 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:25 am to
I would say, because they won a few they ere not supposed to?
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
Stuck in Transfer Portal
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:25 am to
They were an inch away from .500 against Georgia.
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
6741 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:28 am to
TN almost lost to a Sunbelt team last year. A Sunbelt team that joined FBS in 2012.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:31 am to
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TN almost lost to a Sunbelt team last year. A Sunbelt team that joined FBS in 2012.


UT should't have taken their foot off the gas when they were up 31-7. Lesson learned.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40948 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 1:21 pm to
Butch Jones is not a good coach.
Posted by Ericvol2096
Charleston, SC
Member since May 2013
2588 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

Butch Jones is not a good coach.


His record says otherwise.

You can't judge him yet at TN.

If he isn't winning 8 or 9 games at TN by 2016 then you can make that statement.

It is just a guess right now.
Posted by Ericvol2096
Charleston, SC
Member since May 2013
2588 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 1:30 pm to
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Dooleys mess cant even come close to Nutts mess because, he beat Houston Nutt 52-14. Then Nutt came back the next year and went 2-10 while Dooley went 5-7....


For the five seasons before Freeze was hired you only had one head coach.

For the five seasons before Butch was hired TN had 3 head coaches.

That is three times the roster turnover, three times the changes in coaching philosophies, three times the lack of player development, three times the amount of roster defections, ect, ect.

They aren't even CLOSE to comparable situations.

Sorry.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40948 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 1:32 pm to
He is a good recruiter and a very poor in-game coach.

He will never win anything of significance at Tennessee.
Posted by CountryVolFan
Knoxville, TN
Member since Dec 2008
2969 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

How on earth could Hugh Freeze lead his first team in 2012 to a 7-6 record


Cause Hug Froze bougthed all dem playas.
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

Edit: They beat South Carolina but still lost to 4-8 Florida.


The Carolina way right there. Damnit. We win when we're not supposed to and lose when we're supposed to win. I've said it a million times and I'll say it again..by far the most bipolar team I've ever seen. Still love 'em, though.
Posted by LAREBEL2013
Hollywood, CA
Member since Feb 2014
97 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

Ericvol2096How did Tennesee go 5-7 last year?quote:Dooleys mess cant even come close to Nutts mess because, he beat Houston Nutt 52-14. Then Nutt came back the next year and went 2-10 while Dooley went 5-7.... For the five seasons before Freeze was hired you only had one head coach. For the five seasons before Butch was hired TN had 3 head coaches. That is three times the roster turnover, three times the changes in coaching philosophies, three times the lack of player development, three times the amount of roster defections, ect, ect. They aren't even CLOSE to comparable situations. Sorry.


Just so you know in the five years before freeze we had 2 head coaches.....

but overall Your right they aren't comparable, Cause Tennessee is in such a hole, ain't nobody gonna get them out.

Rocky Top = Floppy Cock
This post was edited on 10/23/14 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Ancient Rome
Rocky Top
Member since Oct 2014
1584 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 2:38 pm to
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The Carolina way right there. Damnit. We win when we're not supposed to and lose when we're supposed to win. I've said it a million times and I'll say it again..by far the most bipolar team I've ever seen. Still love 'em, though.


You guys seem to have UGA's #.
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