re: Ole Miss and State's Staying Power

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Just passing along what I've heard and why I think State's success isn't sustainable.

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The steroid supply is getting shut down sometime soon? News to me.

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Just saying, from what I've heard the players on State's team have been "enhanced." It's interesting how you knew exactly what I was referring to even though I never said anything about steroids.

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What else would you be talking about? You don't have to say the word to make it patently obvious what you are talking about.

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Must make it true.

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Just makes it more delicious sour grapes. None of you crybabies can accept the fact that you got Danhandled by a bunch of 2*s you talked shite about all offseason.

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You're an OM fan, what do you care?

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Alabama was a stepping stone job for Franchione. Actually, Tuberville is the only coach that left Ole Miss to coach somewhere else since Vaught.

Bama is nothing special anymore. Ole Miss can pay as much as anyone else is willing to offer freeze. Prove otherwise.

A team that beat them

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Just passing along what I've heard and why I think State's success isn't sustainable. Just saying, from what I've heard the players on State's team have been "enhanced." It's interesting how you knew exactly what I was referring to even though I never said anything about steroids. Must make it true.

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Do you know why non baseball sports teams don't use steroids? It's not because of testing, because there are plenty of products out there you can't test for. It's because rapid gains, that are a result of taking growth enhancing products, grow your muscular tissues faster than your bones, ligaments, and cartilage. This results in a very high probability of injury for professional athletes in sports that are strenuous on your joints and bones. In addition, a large part of full body lifts, and activity found in a contact sport, are based off of the strength in ligaments and small support muscle groups. These groups, and certainly the ligaments, don't benefit from increased testosterone or growth hormones the way large muscle groups do.

If you really think any college team is juicing, you need to study the way the body supports muscle growth. I'm not calling you dumb, I'm just letting you know why you've never heard of a college football player getting caught juicing. It's because none of them do it, it doesn't produce gains that translate to the sport.

Are you serious? If so, this is the dumbest thing i have ever read.

I guess i would start by asking you why would baseball players use them and not football players? Bigger, stronger and faster is only good in baseball?

Btw, i was not insinuating that State players are juicing. I would have no way to back that up, but to say that the reason they don't get caught is b/c that don't do steroids is one of the dumbest things i have heard lately.

Because baseball isn't a contact sport and muscle growing too quickly in relation to bone growth doesn't put them at as high a risk of injury.

Another reason is where the weight is gained, and what groups are used most. You don't see a baseball player juicing and squatting 650, they gain most of the mass in their upper body and torso, the groups they are using most. Whereas a football player is going to perform leg and full body lifts far more than anything else. Joints in the legs are at a higher risk of injury because legs are longer, putting more stress on those joints. Work in the weight room both strengthens the large muscle groups in the legs as well as those joints. When you introduce a substance, your muscle growth accelerates but your body can't support bone growth fast enough to keep up.

You can see where this is going. In short, your leg muscles getting super strong while your bones and ligaments are developing slower is going to result in blowing a knee.

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He thinks they are juicing because his team is full of Texas HS athletes who have strength and conditioning programs like an FCS school (or better), excellent coaching, and great nutrition. Their freshman adjust to the speed of the game, not much else...they don't often see the results of kids lifting non-make shift weights for the first time or having someone actually design a program unique to them and their position instead of "30 minutes of weight training."

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Nailed it.