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re: Had Saban stayed at LSU....
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:09 pm to jbritt25
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:09 pm to jbritt25
Who's the Alabama coach in this scenario from 2007 forward?
You don't know who would be playing for LSU under Saban, wouldn't be playing for Saban at Alabama etc.
I'd say a minimum of four. The actual one in 2003 that he did win, 2006, 2007, 2011. Five isnt a stretch.
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You don't know who would be playing for LSU under Saban, wouldn't be playing for Saban at Alabama etc.
I'd say a minimum of four. The actual one in 2003 that he did win, 2006, 2007, 2011. Five isnt a stretch.
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:15 pm to jbritt25
Auburn is rt with us every cycle in recruiting, sometimes better sometimes worse. If malzahn doesn't win one by year 3, what does that say about him?
Plus Saban was never staying. Every year it was waiting out til the NFL came calling.
Plus Saban was never staying. Every year it was waiting out til the NFL came calling.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:15 pm to jbritt25
No way in the world he doesn't win one with Jamarcus at QB and that 2006 defense.
After that it's really impossible to say because he wouldn't have recruited the same players and there's too many variables.
Kind of a stupid thread.
After that it's really impossible to say because he wouldn't have recruited the same players and there's too many variables.
Kind of a stupid thread.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:18 pm to jbritt25
2006, 2007, 2011, 2012 were all years in which LSU competed for titles anyway.
2006 LSU was the best team in the country.
2007 probably not, but they ended up winning it.
2011 and 2012 it's hard to judge because Alabama would not be what they are today.
Since Saban left, LSU has won one national title. I'll say he would have brought us 2 in that time frame. Three would be pushing it. He's been fortunate to win three at Alabama, and they've had easier schedules than LSU would have.
2006 LSU was the best team in the country.
2007 probably not, but they ended up winning it.
2011 and 2012 it's hard to judge because Alabama would not be what they are today.
Since Saban left, LSU has won one national title. I'll say he would have brought us 2 in that time frame. Three would be pushing it. He's been fortunate to win three at Alabama, and they've had easier schedules than LSU would have.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:18 pm to jbritt25
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Been saying it for years that LSU arguably has the best talent year in and year out but Miles is not an elite x s and o's guy..
How exactly how do you know how good or bad at x and o Miles is? Have you been to any coaches meetings? Team meetings? Practice sessions? Anything?
Now go back to your regular alter and go away.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:22 pm to BayouBengals03
LSU was the best team in the country in 2007. They were ravished with injuries and still made it (no matter how impracticably) to the title game. That's how good they were/how much talent they had.
But like I was saying you can't really even answer this question post 06/07. It's not like LSU would have been the same team if Saban never left.
But like I was saying you can't really even answer this question post 06/07. It's not like LSU would have been the same team if Saban never left.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:22 pm to Gray Tiger
Go back to the Rant
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:24 pm to LSUinMA
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Who's the Alabama coach in this scenario from 2007 forward?
You don't know who would be playing for LSU under Saban, wouldn't be playing for Saban at Alabama etc.
I'd say a minimum of four. The actual one in 2003 that he did win, 2006, 2007, 2011. Five isnt a stretch.
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Yeah, but lets not make the mistake of believing, like so many LSU fans erroneously do, that Louisiana recruits ever played a part in Alabama's historical success.
It was so funny how LSU fans, when Saban first arrived at Alabama, just kept on and on and on about how Louisiana would now be off-limits to Saban and how Alabama would suffer for it.
They actually believed, for some odd reason, that Alabama relied on Louisiana recruits and just could never amount to much without them.
At the time, I tried to tell some of them that Alabama had a grand total of seven players from Louisiana to ever play on the team, since the 1800's, before Saban arrived.
No, no, Saban was going to be a dismal failure for lack of his ability to recruit Louisiana players after his betrayal.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:30 pm to The Boat
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LSU was the best team in the country in 2007.
I guess.
They played 5 regular season games that could have gone either way, although they really did outplay and out-gain Florida, Auburn, and Alabama in their other three tough games. It was a crazy season, and there was really not a super elite team.
Georgia's bad blemish was when they played Tennessee and got just straight up handled. But besides that, they looked very good and were getting better as the season went along.
I just know I'm very happy we didn't have to play them in Atlanta.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:30 pm to BallstotheWesleyWall
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He only had two 10-win seasons in BR so it's not like he blew the lid off like he has at Bama. They'd probably have three total in his tenure if he were still there?
LSU was 3-8 the year before he came to LSU and they had 7 losing seasons in 10 years prior to his arrival in 2000. Bama was in much better shape when he took it over. I remember Shula being undefeated and ranked #3 with Bama until we beat them late in the season in 2005. Saban got there in 2007.
Saban won 2 BCS Bowls (including the NC) and 2 SEC Championships in 5 years at LSU (he was 30+ seconds away from going to three SEC Champinship Games, but Arkansas had the Miracle on Markham and drove 81 yards in like 20 seconds or something to win in the regular season finale). Some of Saban's years were only 11 game seasons as well. He also lost on a Hail Mary on the final play of his final game with LSU.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:31 pm to CtrlAltimerDelete
I make no such presumption about Alabama needing Louisiana players. I'm speaking purely of my belief that Saban could have accumulated the same momentum at LSU for an extended period that he has done since then at Alabama.
Then consider LSU being a championship level contender with a retarded person as head coach in 2006, 2007 and 2011 and suppose that Nick Saban might've been able to get a better result.
Then consider LSU being a championship level contender with a retarded person as head coach in 2006, 2007 and 2011 and suppose that Nick Saban might've been able to get a better result.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:36 pm to jbritt25
None. He almost lost the team at the end of 2004.
If Miami wasn't hiring, he just would have gone somewhere else.
Oh yeah, shut the frick up.
If Miami wasn't hiring, he just would have gone somewhere else.
Oh yeah, shut the frick up.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:38 pm to CtrlAltimerDelete
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LSU isn't a team that wins NC's. How many do they have, four? That's pitiful. It's just not in their football culture to be highly successful.
Roll tide.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:50 pm to jbritt25
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Miles is not an elite x s and o's guy.. Average at best
if average is 5 on a scale of 1-10 then Miles is a .00051.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:00 pm to LSUinMA
saban could not have done at LSU what hes doing at bama, and rest assured that is not a compliment. he's good, no rational person would ever say otherwise, but that's not why he's had the run he's had. none of his LSU teams were this good (his 5th and final team was 9-3, 3-3 vs ranked teams), and his Dolphin teams were awful. his IQ didn't drop 50 points the day he arrived in Miami and then jump 100 when he left. someones ability as a coach and recruiter doesn't just magically double overnight.
bama football is simply corrupt to the core, and has been for 60 years. this is not some secret. these two were made for each other, winning football games is their whole life, it's all they have, saban for his ego and bama because what the frick else do they gonna do? play with all the pine straw?
not that i think saban is involved with that part, i assume he doesn't even ask, the football field and the REC are two separate worlds, but he learned the game from bill "spygate" belichick. the obsession with winning is much more important than whether or not something is unethical.
bama football is simply corrupt to the core, and has been for 60 years. this is not some secret. these two were made for each other, winning football games is their whole life, it's all they have, saban for his ego and bama because what the frick else do they gonna do? play with all the pine straw?
not that i think saban is involved with that part, i assume he doesn't even ask, the football field and the REC are two separate worlds, but he learned the game from bill "spygate" belichick. the obsession with winning is much more important than whether or not something is unethical.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:00 pm to jbritt25
Well if he's at Bama, that means a ton of those Bama kids are now or rather were LSU Tigers. I'd go with four.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:06 pm to xxKylexx
If Hugh Freese was the coach at LSU they will win a title within 3 years. Make it happen boys. Start the website.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:07 pm to SwaggerVance
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Freese
Hire a baseball player? Bold strategy cotton
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:08 pm to jbritt25
Off-Season Board.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:12 pm to MastrShake
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saban could not have done at LSU what hes doing at bama, and rest assured that is not a compliment. he's good, no rational person would ever say otherwise, but that's not why he's had the run he's had. none of his LSU teams were this good (his 5th and final team was 9-3, 3-3 vs ranked teams), and his Dolphin teams were awful. his IQ didn't drop 50 points the day he arrived in Miami and then jump 100 when he left. someones ability as a coach and recruiter doesn't just magically double overnight.
bama football is simply corrupt to the core, and has been for 60 years. this is not some secret. these two were made for each other, winning football games is their whole life, it's all they have, saban for his ego and bama because what the frick else do they gonna do? play with all the pine straw?
not that i think saban is involved with that part, i assume he doesn't even ask, the football field and the REC are two separate worlds, but he learned the game from bill "spygate" belichick. the obsession with winning is much more important than whether or not something is unethical.
Pitiful, stupid, jealous, vengeful, and ignorant is how you seem. Do you realize how incredibly sad and bitter you come off as?
Alabama is, and always has been, one of the most honest football teams in the nation. Why, we only have four major infractions. LSU has two and has one even more recently than Alabama.
LSU needs to clean up it's act before casting stones at Alabama.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 11:14 pm
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