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Hillbilly Heroin case finally set to go to trail, Purdue Pharma LP in hot water
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:19 pm
Leagl drug dealer about to face the public
Suit was filed back in 2007 and has been delayed by corporates drug companies for years. Looks like citizens get their long awaited date in court.
As the case moves toward trial, Kentucky lawyers plan another first for Purdue: They want to elicit testimony from the company’s board, which is dominated by members of the Sackler family, the wealthy philanthropists who own the company and have until now remained largely untouched by the controversy tied to the blockbuster drug that netted their business billions of dollars.
One has to look hard to find the Sackler name on Purdue’s corporate website. But look around a major museum in New York, London, Paris and beyond, and you can’t miss it, from the Sackler Wing at the Louvre to the Sackler Gallery at the Smithsonian. Libraries, research institutes at major universities -- even a footbridge at London’s Kew Gardens and an escalator at the Tate Modern gallery bear the family name. Sackler family members, through a Purdue spokesman, declined to comment for this story.
Suit was filed back in 2007 and has been delayed by corporates drug companies for years. Looks like citizens get their long awaited date in court.
As the case moves toward trial, Kentucky lawyers plan another first for Purdue: They want to elicit testimony from the company’s board, which is dominated by members of the Sackler family, the wealthy philanthropists who own the company and have until now remained largely untouched by the controversy tied to the blockbuster drug that netted their business billions of dollars.
One has to look hard to find the Sackler name on Purdue’s corporate website. But look around a major museum in New York, London, Paris and beyond, and you can’t miss it, from the Sackler Wing at the Louvre to the Sackler Gallery at the Smithsonian. Libraries, research institutes at major universities -- even a footbridge at London’s Kew Gardens and an escalator at the Tate Modern gallery bear the family name. Sackler family members, through a Purdue spokesman, declined to comment for this story.
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:27 pm to Cheese Grits
From the article as well:
And they should absolutely be called to the table over it. It's absolutely ridiculous that we regularly throw drug traffickers in jail but allow legal companies such as pharms to pull some of the shite they pull. And I know there's some pharm folks on this board but it goes well above their heads and some of them have probably been duped as well.
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The Kentucky suit alleges that the company trained its sales force to falsely portray OxyContin as difficult to abuse, even though its own study found a drug abuser could extract most of the active ingredient from a tablet by crushing it.
And they should absolutely be called to the table over it. It's absolutely ridiculous that we regularly throw drug traffickers in jail but allow legal companies such as pharms to pull some of the shite they pull. And I know there's some pharm folks on this board but it goes well above their heads and some of them have probably been duped as well.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:31 pm to Cheese Grits
I hope they pay dearly.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:42 pm to Cheese Grits
Is OxyContin abuse still a really big thing in Kentucky?
Back in the early 2000s in suburban-rural Alabama, we'd run a lot of Oxy OD calls (fire/ems) but by the end of the decade we hardly saw them at all.
Nasty, nasty stuff.
Back in the early 2000s in suburban-rural Alabama, we'd run a lot of Oxy OD calls (fire/ems) but by the end of the decade we hardly saw them at all.
Nasty, nasty stuff.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:02 pm to BluegrassBelle
Yeah drug companies have "gotten away with" some stuff.
But you can google any drug name + "lawsuit" and there's an ambulance chaser looking for a payday through search engine optimization.
I'll need more information about the nature of their deceptive marketing.
But you can google any drug name + "lawsuit" and there's an ambulance chaser looking for a payday through search engine optimization.
I'll need more information about the nature of their deceptive marketing.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:04 pm to JustGetItRight
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Is OxyContin abuse still a really big thing in Kentucky?
Very much so. It's pretty well played a big hand in decimating Appalachia. Heroin is also on the rise.
And 808 this is a little bit more than an ambulance chaser issue. It's garnering a lot of support from the AG here who has also been working toward reducing the pill pipeline here.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:07 pm to JustGetItRight
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Is OxyContin abuse still a really big thing in Kentucky?
While meth took over in many other areas, hillbilly heroin was still strong in KY, TN, and WV. Probably because it was legal drug companies pushing it and heroin being popular in the area. Law enforcements kids getting hooked is probably why this has gotten more and more attention over time. Some states already settled out of court but the KY, TN, and WV triangle could be seen as ground zero in terms of long term damage done.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:11 pm to BluegrassBelle
I'm sure that's how the AG is portraying it. And it could be completely accurate. I'll wait on the actual marketing tactics.
I could see making Purdue liable for a rollout period where their marketing was deceptive. But at some point, if a guy is going to 3 funerals a week, the doctors and pharmacists bear some responsibility (to say nothing of the addicts).
I could see making Purdue liable for a rollout period where their marketing was deceptive. But at some point, if a guy is going to 3 funerals a week, the doctors and pharmacists bear some responsibility (to say nothing of the addicts).
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:14 pm to BluegrassBelle
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And they should absolutely be called to the table over it. It's absolutely ridiculous that we regularly throw drug traffickers in jail but allow legal companies such as pharms to pull some of the shite they pull. And I know there's some pharm folks on this board but it goes well above their heads and some of them have probably been duped as well.
Just legalize it all.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:15 pm to the808bass
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I could see making Purdue liable for a rollout period where their marketing was deceptive. But at some point, if a guy is going to 3 funerals a week, the doctors and pharmacists bear some responsibility (to say nothing of the addicts).
And they've made effort to cut down on distribution of those meds here. A agree that there's multiple parties responsible but simply because there's a lot of fingers to be pointed shouldn't mean everyone gets off either. Especially if the company falsely marketed it.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:18 pm to the808bass
it is pretty accurate, in fact much of what has gone on has not been public yet but was know privately for years.
If you look at the way it worked using the mafia as similar setup
Don = Big Pharma
Capos = drug reps
Doctors = soldiers
Pharmacies = family associates but not made men
If you look at the way it worked using the mafia as similar setup
Don = Big Pharma
Capos = drug reps
Doctors = soldiers
Pharmacies = family associates but not made men
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:19 pm to BluegrassBelle
Big Pharmaceutical is the most glaring example of the dangers of corporatism. Take the FDA to court as well and then I might be excited about this lawsuit.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:10 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Especially if the company falsely marketed it.
Absolutely.
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agree that there's multiple parties responsible but simply because there's a lot of fingers to be pointed shouldn't mean everyone gets off either.
And let me know when a pharmacy or doctor gets sued. Pharma companies get sued for the same reason banks get robbed. That's where the money is.
I was a drug rep years ago. I don't have any fondness for the industry. But I have no sympathy for the ideas that spring forth from the stereotypes and caricatures of the industry.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:25 pm to Cheese Grits
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Don = Big Pharma
Capos = drug reps
Doctors = soldiers
Pharmacies = family associates but not made men
Wow, I actually agree with a Grits post.
That's a first.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:34 pm to JustGetItRight
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Is OxyContin abuse still a really big thing in Kentucky?
Can't answer for Kentucky, but the ER/Trauma dept that I work for in Columbia, SC still has OC od's coming in pretty regularly. People are still "banging" or shooting it, even though the newer OC's are not supposed to be effective that way.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:58 pm to BluegrassBelle
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The Kentucky suit alleges that the company trained its sales force to falsely portray OxyContin as difficult to abuse, even though its own study found a drug abuser could extract most of the active ingredient from a tablet by crushing it.
Buddy had a neighbor who was a drug rep, he got hooked on it.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:17 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Take the FDA to court as well and then I might be excited about this lawsuit.
fricking this. The FDA must be as much to blame for this...if we are blaming someone.
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heroin being popular in the area
Heroin was virtually non-existent, at least in rural East TN until Oxyxontin came along. The crackdown on Oxycontin led to the heroin market opening up and now it has become a legit problem in East TN.
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:21 pm to the808bass
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I was a drug rep years ago.
This explains so much
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I have no sympathy for the ideas that spring forth from the stereotypes and caricatures of the industry.
I know some reps and they fit the stereotypes pretty well. Sales is tough no matter what you are selling but drug sales seem to play on a whole different level.
I do agree tho, lawyers will always go for the deepest pockets.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:25 pm to Remote Controlled
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Wow, I actually agree with a Grits post.
It really is pretty accurate. With friends in law enforcement in KY and TN it is a war zone similar to prohibition in the 20's. Throw in the mexican cartels growing weed in the National Parks in that area and it really has gotten downright scary.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:59 pm to Cheese Grits
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This explains so much
If you're a shallow person that deals in stereotypes, I'm sure it does.
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